Not debating the merits, just predictions (so likely very wrong!)

Quick read:

West with the biggest gains from an individual pilot career perspective (NIC correction + merger benefits).

AA good. I thought the AA case around pay / career expectations felt pretty strong actually. Feels like they should get credited somehow as a result.

East. Still good with merger pay increases but career progression may not be as strong as others.

Random guess:

Longevity weighted lower than west and east to benefit AA - I'll guess 25%.

Career expectation bonus - not 75%, but maybe 25% if used. This was AA's thing, but harder to follow technically.

No idea on the bypassed pilots. It seems weird to credit for seats not being flown by someone on a list... Interested to see where that lands. Similar with US Airways "third list" - be interesting to see how that's handled.

Should be interesting...

 

Really? Another thread on this?

 

I'm guessing the panel will issue a list comprised of some, all or none of the proposals. I'll also venture a guess that some people will be happy. Some will be ****ed and some will move on with their lives and focus on trying to fix the mess that the JCBA got us into. I'll also go on record with a guess that there is absolutely nothing the regular line pilots can do about it and posting on a message board will do nothing to aid anyone's cause.

(I'll also bet cacti and eaglefly will be along shortly to pontificate.)

 

Outsider prediction:

They merge the Nicalou Award with AA list and for years everyone complains the West got windfall, based on the "three separate list" theory, when in fact, there should have only been two lists.

From my viewpoint at a merger ALPA carrier, the West has been getting fisted for almost a decade and now that it's going to be fixed and their rightful seniority restored, people will call it a "windfall", when in fact it's called "justice".

That's a UCH pilot's opinion.

 

Everyone on the list within 1-5 % of west proposal depending on where they fall on the list. Naatives move forward within that percentage range while east/west move backwards within that percentage range. 5 year 777/787-350/330 fence. no base fencing.

 

Ha! 1 for 2!

 

Dunno.

All I know is somebody better not move my cheese and Festivus will rock later this year

 

West moves forward on all proposals. Being younger helps. It just takes time to develop under the AA proposal vs a quicker, and permanent 'blocker' position, under the West proposal.

 

Why not ? You're guessing too along with others.

So far, I'm sticking with my original assumption of a hybrid result that is not a pure adoption of any of the three proposals. Part of that is the use of portions of the Nic, but not the whole Nic in pure form. My guess is they will say the complexities of this merger/SLI require them thinking outside the box to produce what they feel is the most equitable result. Just like some of the Nic being used, so may varying levels of LOS. Again, regarding Letter T pilots is that the argument to dilute them because at snapshot they "didn't bring jobs to the merger" because they deferred means they must also dilute similar pilots who DID bring jobs to the merger who were more junior LAA. Also, the furlough range is pretty wide for those pilots, so the bottom 1/3 of the list will be the most contentious and thus difficult to predict. That's my guess. Ack thinks we were shredded to pieces and so, we may just gat stapled below the pure NIC too.

 

Nailed it! Somebody buy this man a beer, and for the love of god somebody shut down this duplicate thread before the contagion spreads.