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Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 2068912)

So? Who cares. America west is now AA, and besides America west hasn't been around in over ten years.

A lot of LAA pilots care, especially those junior. That's part of the West committees strategy, in essence, to paint pre-merger West pilots PMCE as identical to LAA. In other words, nothing to see here folks, let's look over there and use UAL/CAL as if AWA and AA were essentially equal pre-merger.

Hey, stunning deal if you can get it, but it's still the mother of all windfalls if that occurs.

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Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2068950)

The arbitrators have a tough job due to all the extraneous variables involved. The outcome will be interesting.

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Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2068950)

Where you at eagle or mainline when US/AWA merged? (Physically working)

I try to stay pretty positive and hope that we're able to get through this SLI and move forward. Yes, everyone will complain, that's what pilots do best. I also realize that I can't judge an entire group on based on this website, but I'm sometimes shocked at what's coming out of the desert. You won the lottery and you're whining about the taxes.

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Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2068962)

Where you at eagle or mainline when US/AWA merged? (Physically working)

He started class around May or Jun of '13.
He doesn't like to answer those questions.

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Originally Posted by A321 (Post 2062245)

With this shove-down-the-throat JCBA and MOU with hands tied in bk, we are now locked into the lowest compensation of the 3 legacy carriers until 2019. Giving away profit sharing was one of the biggest mistakes this pilot group could have ever committed.

Let us not make the same mistakes again.
Pay attention to the psychology used against this pilot group.
Do not allow yourself to be played, and let us not be played against each other, as this management group did with AW/US.

http://s9.postimg.org/smjffji4f/Scre...8_21_24_PM.png

http://s29.postimg.org/gwvg6lo3b/Scr...8_21_31_PM.png

Guys,

This makes DAL look better than we are. Keep in mind the DC contributions constitute the whole of our retirement plan.

I am pretty sure most would gladly forgo the 15% DC contribution for the 60% FAE that many of us lost.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if AMR guys are still getting a DB retirement I think you guys are doing a lot better than this chart would have it appear.

As was said previously - this chart was made by our management in the hopes of getting us to accept the next substandard offer they throw our way. :cool:

Scoop

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Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO (Post 2068958)

The arbitrators have a tough job due to all the extraneous variables involved. The outcome will be interesting.

Or they could make it easy by using Nic, everyone hired at US after the merger goes junior to that list, then just merge that list with AA list.

Than it would be easy.

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Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 2069174)

He started class around May or Jun of '13.
He doesn't like to answer those questions.

Thanks. I figured as much.

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Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2069213)

Or they could make it easy by using Nic, everyone hired at US after the merger goes junior to that list, then just merge that list with AA list.

Than it would be easy.

Too simplistic. It's not just the NIC, it's whether AWA guys get to start flying to China (for that quality air) in 3-5 years. If fuel prices drop and Dougie delays 787 orders, keeps the 767-300s, and the Westie's leap in front of LAA guys for those spots.

Lots going on. Only easy for those with small minds.