Why We Need To Be Talking About ALPA
03-03-2016, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FTFF
Pardon me for jumping in but voting in ALPA isn't going to solve your problem of unity and lack of leadership.
The problem at AAL right now is that the pilots (membership) are completely disengaged, unmotivated, and split a hundred different ways. There is no fight left, due to the realization of just how ineffective APA is.
With a switch back to ALPA, my belief is that the membership would be re-energized and newly motivated under the prospect of a new and effective union with muscles that has delivered ILC's for the other big 3 currently in ALPA. This membership switch in mood is essential in rallying behind the new leaders and will lead to some much needed leverage.
03-03-2016, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Arado 234
aa73,
I personally respect the work you do and your drive, but my question is whether a new union structure - ALPA or USAPA II - (with probably the same people) will significantly change AA from being the bottom of the league.I personally think that the fault lies with the individuals and not with the structure or the name of the union.
How can one expect leading this profession if the mind set is always "we have always done it this way"? The change has to come from within. If you want a fresh start, replace (all?) the people, not the structure.
I personally respect the work you do and your drive, but my question is whether a new union structure - ALPA or USAPA II - (with probably the same people) will significantly change AA from being the bottom of the league.I personally think that the fault lies with the individuals and not with the structure or the name of the union.
How can one expect leading this profession if the mind set is always "we have always done it this way"? The change has to come from within. If you want a fresh start, replace (all?) the people, not the structure.
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Changing representation won't do much good if the same guys are in leadership positions within the new union.
03-03-2016, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Changing representation won't do much good if the same guys are in leadership positions within the new union.
Changing representation won't do much good if the same guys are in leadership positions within the new union.
03-04-2016, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
A new leadership would be elected with a switch to ALPA.
Isn't it true that the APA has the same structure that they did before they left ALPA in 1963?
How will a NATIONAL organization comprised of two other major ALPA unions (Delta and United) do what this organization has been unable to do before or since the merger? Run TV/newspaper ads and picket?
Keep dreaming and wasting our money.
03-04-2016, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Who? And if they have the leadership skills why aren't they in office now?
03-04-2016, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Route66
Is it POSSIBLE that the same guys could run and get elected back in into the same or similar positions?
Isn't it true that the APA has the same structure that they did before they left ALPA in 1963?
How will a NATIONAL organization comprised of two other major ALPA unions (Delta and United) do what this organization has been unable to do before or since the merger? Run TV/newspaper ads and picket?
Keep dreaming and wasting our money.
Isn't it true that the APA has the same structure that they did before they left ALPA in 1963?
How will a NATIONAL organization comprised of two other major ALPA unions (Delta and United) do what this organization has been unable to do before or since the merger? Run TV/newspaper ads and picket?
Keep dreaming and wasting our money.
No dreaming. Just putting passion into action.
03-04-2016, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
A new leadership would be elected with a switch to ALPA.
How would that happen? The same jerks would just get re-elected.
(If a recall is what we are after, a recall could be done through APA.)
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