airpaul81

Curious how reserve works and how long one can expect to be on reserve? Thanks

flywithjohn

Any guess what someone with 2,800 hours and 1,000 121 time would get for options?

RyeMex

I don't know for sure, but I would imagine that GloriousProfits may find the fact that someone who hasn't even begun training here is already complaining about how bad things are (i.e., complaining about not getting a raise on the 737 for 3 years) is distasteful, to say the least. I won't try to dissuade you from a job at atlas / southern, but accepting the job and then complaining to those of us who have been here for some time about how unfair it is won't win you many friends.

RyeMex

No one really knows how HR comes to their decisions with regards to whether or not they'll offer somebody an airframe. My advice would be: apply if you want, and don't be afraid to say "no thanks" if they don't give you what you want. That is, of course, assuming that you aren't desperate for a job.

A job at atlas /southern is better than no job at all. But do keep in mind that about 90% of what the recruiters tell you will be a lie. I can't emphasize enough how important it is to be able to live off of minimum guarantee here. Also, keep in mind that the courts recently ruled that the next CBA here will be an arbitrated contract. Don't come here if you desperately need the next contract to be much better in order to pay your bills. Because it won't be.

CRJJ

I can understand your point of view, but it was more an observation than a complain, but again, I do get your point. All I try to get from APC is advice and different perspectives from you experienced guys. Not trying to give anyone sh*t nor add drama/tension. Thanks for the explanation.

RyeMex

We have 3 versions of reserve.

R1 is home reserve. You'll only get paid minimum guarantee, most likely. You have to be able to depart from your gateway airport within 5 hours if they call you from 7am - noon local time, or within 10 hours if they call you after that.

R2 is hotel reserve. It may be in base, or it may be elsewhere. The reserve period is 14 hours long, and you must be able to depart the hotel an hour after being called.

R3 is airport reserve. A 6 hour shift sitting in a crew room at an airport. Must be able to launch the airplane within 90 minutes of being activated.

Keep in mind that, due to our lack of work rules, every crewmember is essentially on permanent reserve. Even if you are a line holder, scheduling can change your trip at pretty much any time. Essentially, you must check your schedule every 10 hours to see if it has changed.

RyeMex

I get what you're saying. You won't ever say anything that will offend me, but just keep some things in perspective when you come here. For the past 4 years we have been involved an a terribly nasty confrontation with our management group. We've also just learned that our next CBA is going to be arbitrated. That means that, in the almost 28 years that Atlas has been around, the pilots here have only once been able to actually vote on a contract, and we won't be voting on this one either. There's a lot of frustration and people can lash out if they think that newer guys are belittling the "blood, sweat, and tears" that they've put into this place.

In any case, your job for the first two months is to make it through training. I wish you the best of luck with that. Just keep in mind once you are out on the line that you may not find a lot of patience for complaining when you inevitably realize that our contract is much worse than you thought it was going to be.

Cheers.

desertdweller

Can anyone comment on the balance of r1/r2/r3 for the 76 out of CVG? Thanks.

CRJJ

Solid advice, and I will for sure keep it in mind. Thank you, much appreciated.

boeingdvr

RESERVE GOES UBER SENIOR. You will not get reserve. Instead you will be flying hub turns at 1am. Wanna guess why RSV goes senior ?

Of course. Don’t take my word for it- see for yourself shortly after OE and you bid for the first time.

Oh cool- I got a line. After further inspection, oh crap. Night hub turns on a -200’ hmmm. Okay. Maybe next month will be better.

wash rinse repeat. Welcome boys and girls- No growth on the 767.

FYI- the May bid. There where roughly 100 bidders in CVG. The top 10 took RSV. The most junior FO was awarded a hard line. -200 flying doing night turns from CVG.