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RyeMex 04-25-2020 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by jungle driver (Post 3041533)
Is there a way to tell by looking at a flight number which flights are passenger charters? Do they have a specific number range?

Most of our passenger flights are for the DoD or military, so the details are not publicly shared.

RemiDenton 04-25-2020 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by RyeMex (Post 3041589)
We do line bidding. So, you may be given 100 lines to chose from, and you rank order your preferences.

Trip trading is "allowed" at the discretion of the company, which means that in reality we do not have trip trading.

What fleet are you being hired into? If it's the 777/767, start studying general knowledge stuff like ETOPS or NAT/oceanic contingency procedures. Oh, and learn how to use proper ICAO radio phraseology. Seriously.


I’m 747, but we have a solid 80+ hired in from Compass. I’ll take a look at more of the oceanic stuff but being Mil, I’m blessed to have that and ICAO history. Good call on brushing up on that stuff though.

I’m guessing bidding wise, there’s a software you use at least?

The only Mil Pax halls I’ve seen is the BWI Lines. 767 flights with a Giant callsign.


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RyeMex 04-25-2020 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by RemiDenton (Post 3041593)
I’m 747, but we have a solid 80+ hired in from Compass. I’ll take a look at more of the oceanic stuff but being Mil, I’m blessed to have that and ICAO history. Good call on brushing up on that stuff though.

I’m guessing bidding wise, there’s a software you use at least?

The only Mil Pax halls I’ve seen is the BWI Lines. 767 flights with a Giant callsign.


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We use AIMS for bidding.
Again, we don't publicly divulge information about military flights.

blinkpilot182 04-25-2020 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by RemiDenton (Post 3041524)
How does bidding work in general? Do you just get all the lines and list priorities?

Do they allow trip trades?

Lastly, I want to start studying something. How can one get ahold of memory items or training documents to read on? Is it risky to take a look at YouTube videos on systems?

COVID has me a bit bored...


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The YouTube videos for 767 systems are pretty trustworthy. Honestly though I would just wait till training. You’ll have more than enough time to learn everything. Like someone said in an earlier post it couldn’t hurt to start glancing at ETOPS/NAT stuff. Nailing down proper phraseology would be good too. It’s a super big deal when you start flying worldwide. I thought I knew how to talk on the radios, then I came to Atlas. Hahaha


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jungle driver 04-25-2020 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by RyeMex (Post 3041590)
Most of our passenger flights are for the DoD or military, so the details are not publicly shared.

I totally understand that and wouldn't want anyone to share anything that is SSI. I have a 74 class date coming up and was looking at flight aware just trying to get a feel for the pax (not just military) to cargo ratio.

RyeMex 04-25-2020 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by jungle driver (Post 3041606)
I totally understand that and wouldn't want anyone to share anything that is SSI. I have a 74 class date coming up and was looking at flight aware just trying to get a feel for the pax (not just military) to cargo ratio.

To some extent, the amount of pax flying will depend on what base you are able to hold. However, keep in mind that overall the vast majority of the flying that we do across all fleet types is cargo flying. Best of luck with your upcoming class.

C17B74 04-25-2020 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Elevation (Post 3041442)
Yeah, the risk with my advice is low expectations set us up to accept low results.

True, very true/same here. With Knox’s input regarding arbitration (which we kind of figured, but I had no timeline reference) it is definitely open to more long legs of opinion until the hammer falls. Oh boy.

boeingdvr 04-25-2020 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by jungle driver (Post 3041606)
I totally understand that and wouldn't want anyone to share anything that is SSI. I have a 74 class date coming up and was looking at flight aware just trying to get a feel for the pax (not just military) to cargo ratio.


lol. 24/7 my man. Throw a dart on the globe.

CardboardCutout 04-25-2020 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by RemiDenton (Post 3041524)

COVID has me a bit bored...


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Not bored enough to read the rest of this thread, mind you!

atpcliff 04-25-2020 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by 121again (Post 3041488)
With a few exceptions the vast majority of the lines are built to 17 days.

I am on the 747, ORD base.
Mar-Jun2020:
12 day trip
14 day trip
10 day trip
6 day trip
11 day trip
3 day trip (training on days off...not my preference)
16 day trip
I would guess I do a 17 day trip once every 3-4 months or so. Most of my trips are 6-16 days.


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