Atlas / Southern
08-21-2019, 05:08 PM
#151
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Originally Posted by maxjet
Those of you who are new to the forum. 1224 leadership held up the TA that K4 had for many months. The reason? Kalitta had negotiated a 24 hour duty day when on a double crew. Down from 30. 1224 at the last minute stopped the process over a NEW demand. Deals off and you need to obtain an 18 hour max duty day. Long story as to why 1224 would do this to us and not worth rehashing. It cost K4 pilots substantial money in both lost pay and expenses to arbitrate our way free. It was in my opinion the main reason we left 1224.
How this gets morphed into you thinking that K4 Pilots do not adamantly support the well being of ALL pilots just reeks of immaturity on your part.
How this gets morphed into you thinking that K4 Pilots do not adamantly support the well being of ALL pilots just reeks of immaturity on your part.
Nobody cares.
08-21-2019, 05:14 PM
#152
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Originally Posted by robi523
Easy fix... Stay away
08-21-2019, 05:18 PM
#153
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
I'm sorry, who else has first year FO's breaking 200k if they want it? Or 140k if they'd rather be home more? Our giant hourly rate increase was done instead of a rig.
Now ya'll are super happy for your new DH rules saying it is industry leading. Should I be the prick that says it's still not at the level of what Evergreen had? All international DH was business class regardless of length or legs.
A commuter? Every former commuter pilot at K4 is looking at you as if you just dressed up as Hitler for Halloween.
Now ya'll are super happy for your new DH rules saying it is industry leading. Should I be the prick that says it's still not at the level of what Evergreen had? All international DH was business class regardless of length or legs.
A commuter? Every former commuter pilot at K4 is looking at you as if you just dressed up as Hitler for Halloween.
If I were at K4 and were a Captain I'd leave for most of those listed in that top 12.
08-21-2019, 05:21 PM
#154
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Originally Posted by JackStraw
Why do Kalitta guys constantly migrate over to Atlas threads to spike your W2s on us? It reeks of desperation.
If K4 had offered an interview last year I wouldn't have considered it.
Last edited by Globemaster2827; 08-21-2019 at 05:32 PM.
08-21-2019, 05:31 PM
#155
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Originally Posted by maxjet
Those of you who are new to the forum. 1224 leadership held up the TA that K4 had for many months. The reason? Kalitta had negotiated a 24 hour duty day when on a double crew. Down from 30. 1224 at the last minute stopped the process over a NEW demand. Deals off and you need to obtain an 18 hour max duty day. Long story as to why 1224 would do this to us and not worth rehashing. It cost K4 pilots substantial money in both lost pay and expenses to arbitrate our way free. It was in my opinion the main reason we left 1224.
How this gets morphed into you thinking that K4 Pilots do not adamantly support the well being of ALL pilots just reeks of immaturity on your part.
How this gets morphed into you thinking that K4 Pilots do not adamantly support the well being of ALL pilots just reeks of immaturity on your part.
08-21-2019, 05:37 PM
#156
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Your first year FOs are breaking $140k making $111 an hour with a 64 hour guarantee? With no rig does the FAA know they're flying 1261 hours a year?
If I were at K4 and were a Captain I'd leave for most of those listed in that top 12.
If I were at K4 and were a Captain I'd leave for most of those listed in that top 12.
I hate the bickering back and forth about contracts/companies...it's always so extreme opposite ended and petty. "You work 24 hour days" "I work four days a month and make 25 grand". I have close friends at every major, LCC, and box carrier....I know the score.
08-21-2019, 09:51 PM
#157
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Position: Capt
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Should I be the prick that says it's still not at the level of what Evergreen had? All international DH was business class regardless of length or legs.
and Biz Class if the Duty Day is over 16 hours if it's a domestic DH, and a max Duty Day of 20 hours, if DH at the end of the Duty Day. You can extend your Duty Day over 20 hours if you are DH to your gateway/Alternative Travel destination at the end of a pattern, only.
08-22-2019, 05:52 AM
#158
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
As a former Atlas and now a big 2 cargo guy I'd love to show them my 2020 W2... AND Retirement. Maybe some of them would start to realize how bad Connie treats them. I've averaged around 4 days of work a month this Summer and this month I'll clear $20k this month easy... Maybe even $25k.
If K4 had offered an interview last year I wouldn't have considered it.
If K4 had offered an interview last year I wouldn't have considered it.
Is that why the call you the “Globemaster” ??
08-22-2019, 06:10 AM
#159
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Position: B777 CA
Posts: 585
Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Your first year FOs are breaking $140k making $111 an hour with a 64 hour guarantee? With no rig does the FAA know they're flying 1261 hours a year?
If I were at K4 and were a Captain I'd leave for most of those listed in that top 12.
If I were at K4 and were a Captain I'd leave for most of those listed in that top 12.
We get it
You hate Kalitta and everyone there and everything about it
Why dont you go troll a UPS thread or something
08-22-2019, 06:15 AM
#160
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Position: B777 CA
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Actually you cost yourself money by demanding a vote on an obsolete pay rate, obsolete work rules and the worst retirement I know of other than a few of the commuters. That's on you.
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