wjcandee

RE Amazon maybe tranferring the operation of 1049A and 1439A to ATI.

Well, 1439A is still being operated by Atlas, as of a couple of hours ago.

1049A has been at ILN for 5 days, having flown in last Friday night under a 9xxx flight number.

I thought that movement might have something to do with the fact that GTI will shortly begin to fly one or more Amazon routes out of ILN. Or (less likely) for maintenance. I also realized that its presence at ILN could fit the rumor about Amazon taking the operation of some of its dry-leased aircraft away from Atlas, but that seemed too convenient. Maybe not. Maybe it's at ILN for ATI conformity. Still, that really seems beyond-the-beyond.

As nothing has been announced, it's still a rumor, although there sure is a lot of smoke.

And, for what it's worth, the rumor about Amazon pulling some flying from Atlas also fits the rumor of "something big and hush-hush" happening soon at Kalitta. (I wouldn't dare lay odds on that, of course, particularly after Connie's legendary initial response to Amazon's inquiries, but it does at least generally fit...)

And has anyone noticed the deafening silence from the ABX folks who post on here? Don't know what that's about, but it does seem weird, like going out for the paper one morning and finding your whole neighborhood deserted...

CardboardCutout

ATSG sends so much as a kite to ABX and people around here are going to lose their minds.

iPilot

You all realize ATSG is one of the very few maintenance centers in the world that can do the aft bulkhead replacement right? My money is on 1049A coming due for it and instead of sending the plane half way around the world to get it done they just went with ATSG. Might as well keep it all in the family anyway. As for why they'd do it now and not when they carved the plane into a freighter who knows. The fact that half the planes came to us without ADS-B or even GPS and all manner of non-standard cockpits makes me think they just wanted to get them out the door ASAP. Stuff like the bulkhead could wait until its next C-check.

tengssuuciurta

Hush now, the sky is supposed to be falling.

Elevation

There's a lot going wrong here that's supported by solid evidence. Not sure about the 767 to ATSG thing.

Pirates cove

Just to clarify, he said one is in Wilmington getting transferred. The other in TPA, leaves on the 22nd for ATI.

wjcandee

Sad to say, it appears increasingly-likely, short of a formal announcement, that he is correct.

wjcandee

Well, here we go. Remarkable. According to CargoFacts, the transfer of CMI operation of at least two Amazon-dry-leased 767-300Fs from Atlas to "another provider" has been confirmed by Atlas. It's understood from other information that the provider is ATI.

https://cargofacts.com/allposts/logi...ther-operator/

FWIW, this doesn't necessarily mean that Amazon is per se dissatisfied with Atlas's current performance. Another possibility is that Amazon wanted to significantly-increase the flying tempo of the Atlas-operated fleet, as it has with ABX Air and ATI, and Atlas wasn't able fully to staff the increase in tempo for all 20-ish aircraft because of its difficulty hiring, training and retaining 767 crews.

[thanks to my friend velorouge for bringing the url to my attention]

ItnStln

Thanks!
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Turbine1

It’s the first shot across the bow of the AAWH pilot group. Keep resisting another non ratified 60% below industry standard CBA and kiss your jobs goodbye. Interesting this comes two days after Teamsters 1224 filed in district court to vacate the arbitration award. So now the flying will go to ATI the next lowest paid and only non Teamsters airline in the ATSG/AAWH stable. The whipsaw has begun, and it’s about to get real ugly. I expect furloughs next year to ratchet up the pressure some more. Who will blink first, AAWH mgt or Teamsters? Time will tell.