Amazon obstructing Atlas & ATSG pilots
03-07-2019 | 12:20 AM
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And Southern got a big improvement in pay, which now means that it can't be used to whipsaw it's previous "lower cost" pilots vs the rest of the DHL/Amazon carriers...kind of goes against the whole point of this thread...
03-07-2019 | 01:37 AM
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So, everyone just stop flying for them. Force their hand. Make them hand over a new CBA before resuming work. Strength in numbers.
The overall goal of any business is to keep overhead low while maximizing profits. The pilot group, also know by CEO’s and investors as “cost units”, have an always will be a major expense that companies can and will keep underpaid just so they can show some sort of year-over-year profit to their investors.
The overall goal of any business is to keep overhead low while maximizing profits. The pilot group, also know by CEO’s and investors as “cost units”, have an always will be a major expense that companies can and will keep underpaid just so they can show some sort of year-over-year profit to their investors.
03-07-2019 | 12:41 PM
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Your point doesn't change the fact that Southern and Atlas pilots are still getting substandard pay and as long as it stays that way Amazon, I'm sure, is happy.
03-07-2019 | 02:40 PM
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I understand completely. In theory it is a great idea. In practice, well......
03-07-2019 | 05:02 PM
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I agree, I don't think Amazon really cares how much the pilots at Atlas or any of the other carriers are making. It's seems like it's basically the same model as the regionals. Atlas signs a contract for a certain amount of years to fly a certain amount of planes for a certain price. You get too expensive, whether that be because of pilot costs or not, it's not Amazon's problem. It's up to Atlas or ATI or whoever else is flying for Amazon to figure out how to make a profit. As long as the planes keep moving per the agreed upon prices Amazon is happy.
03-08-2019 | 11:37 PM
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I fly with guys every day that practically wack the pork sword to a pic of bezos and amazon planes.
03-09-2019 | 05:22 AM
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03-09-2019 | 07:14 AM
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I agree, I don't think Amazon really cares how much the pilots at Atlas or any of the other carriers are making. It's seems like it's basically the same model as the regionals. Atlas signs a contract for a certain amount of years to fly a certain amount of planes for a certain price. You get too expensive, whether that be because of pilot costs or not, it's not Amazon's problem. It's up to Atlas or ATI or whoever else is flying for Amazon to figure out how to make a profit. As long as the planes keep moving per the agreed upon prices Amazon is happy.
03-09-2019 | 10:26 AM
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I am not an expert by any means but just by googling it seems the planes are leased from Titan and then operated under a cmi deal with Atlas. Titan is owned by Atlas. So basically it’s a regional model. Amazon sets the schedules and pays for the fuel, Atlas is in charge of everything else. I also think Amazon also owns a bit of Atlas stock.
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