Originally Posted by Whalehunter
(Post 3148208)
That's pretty sad
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aqp is a joke compared to the training footprint of 8 sims pass or your fired. getting 25 sims and 120 hours of i o e to get you through is not the norm dude. be glad you didn't have to become a flight engineer if you even know what that is (assuming you are a millenial)
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Sounds like World Airways (RIP.) ACMI is ACMI. Shoestring training budgets and rented sims.
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Originally Posted by neverposts
(Post 3148235)
aqp is a joke compared to the training footprint of 8 sims pass or your fired. getting 25 sims and 120 hours of i o e to get you through is not the norm dude. be glad you didn't have to become a flight engineer if you even know what that is (assuming you are a millenial)
Now I certainly agree there are limits to how much a company should put into someone before cutting them loose. However the extended training someone gets is not synonymous with AQP. One huge advantage to a mature AQP is that it highlights deficiencies within a group. For instance, if everyone sucks at missed approach procedures on the line, then recurrent AQP will focus on that. Lots of ASAP or FOQA data then the common denominator may not be the pilots but the way procedures are taught and understood. AQP aims to correct the problems. With new hires it aims to get training done. Yes actual training. Under the old school method it’s “be perfect on day one and if not hopefully you have a pillow to chew on cause this is gonna hurt”. New school is “here is where you need to improve so let’s focus on that”. The whole idea is to make safer more proficient pilots. If a pilot cannot hack that in an allotted time then yes time to cut them loose. |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 3148247)
Sounds like World Airways (RIP.) ACMI is ACMI. Shoestring training budgets and rented sims.
Tread carefully. K4 training is not perfect to be sure, but we own our 400 sims. The one we bought from Deltas used to be a complete piece, but we’ve classed it up a good bit. |
Originally Posted by fastback
(Post 3148266)
K4 training is not perfect to be sure, but we own our 400 sims. The one we bought from Deltas used to be a complete piece, but we’ve classed it up a good bit.
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Originally Posted by Whalehunter
(Post 3148208)
That's pretty sad
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Originally Posted by Elevation
(Post 3147895)
I fly at a different carrier, but I have some friends at K4 who made it through without problems. I thought K4 had AQP already.
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Originally Posted by Whalehunter
(Post 3147993)
You mean Atlas? I don't think they have AQP.
My understanding was K4 has it. |
Originally Posted by gollum
(Post 3148425)
K4 does have AQP and it’s not difficult if you actually study. The ones who struggle do so because they want to be spoon fed and not put in the effort.
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