1500TT/No ATP, Atlas success?
12-27-2023, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by TaewoongShin
Q1: Can you provide more details about the training process for ATP-CTP and how it aligns with the specific aircraft assigned to a pilot after joining a company?
When you apply and get hired by a company, do you undergo ATP-CTP training after joining? (How does the salary work during this period?) Or is it something provided by the company before you join?
If it's before joining, do you initially train on a generic aircraft like the 737, and after joining, receive training on the specific aircraft assigned to you, such as the 747 or 767? Or is it after joining that you select the aircraft type, undergo ATP-CTP, and receive simulator training to obtain the qualification?
Q2: How does the salary structure typically work during the ATP-CTP training period?
When you apply and get hired by a company, do you undergo ATP-CTP training after joining? (How does the salary work during this period?) Or is it something provided by the company before you join?
If it's before joining, do you initially train on a generic aircraft like the 737, and after joining, receive training on the specific aircraft assigned to you, such as the 747 or 767? Or is it after joining that you select the aircraft type, undergo ATP-CTP, and receive simulator training to obtain the qualification?
Q2: How does the salary structure typically work during the ATP-CTP training period?
Q2: Airline Specific, if offered.
12-28-2023, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TaewoongShin
Thank you. Sir, I was curious about the process when someone without ATP-CTP is selected to apply to Atlas. Could you explain what kind of process such individuals go through?
12-28-2023, 06:09 AM
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https://pilotcareers-atlasair.icims....jun1offset=240
Candidates without an Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) Certificate
Atlas Air now offers a limited number of highly qualified candidates the opportunity to complete the ATP certification course. Pilots must meet all the required pre-requisites for obtaining an ATP listed above, while meeting the ATP minimum flight hour criteria listed below:
Flight Hours
Excuse me, I'm talking about what I mentioned earlier. Is that opportunity still valid or operational?
Candidates without an Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) Certificate
Atlas Air now offers a limited number of highly qualified candidates the opportunity to complete the ATP certification course. Pilots must meet all the required pre-requisites for obtaining an ATP listed above, while meeting the ATP minimum flight hour criteria listed below:
Flight Hours
- 1500 Total Flight Time
- 250 Pilot-In-Command (PIC) hours fixed wing
- 500 Total Cross Country hours or 200 hours for a restricted ATP (R-ATP) under FAR 1.160 (f)
- 100 Cross Country PIC hours
- 100 Night Flight Time hours
- 25 Night PIC hours
- 75 Instrument Training hours
- 50 Multi-Engine Land hours
Excuse me, I'm talking about what I mentioned earlier. Is that opportunity still valid or operational?
12-28-2023, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TaewoongShin
https://pilotcareers-atlasair.icims....jun1offset=240
Candidates without an Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) Certificate
Atlas Air now offers a limited number of highly qualified candidates the opportunity to complete the ATP certification course. Pilots must meet all the required pre-requisites for obtaining an ATP listed above, while meeting the ATP minimum flight hour criteria listed below:
Flight Hours
Excuse me, I'm talking about what I mentioned earlier. Is that opportunity still valid or operational?
Candidates without an Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) Certificate
Atlas Air now offers a limited number of highly qualified candidates the opportunity to complete the ATP certification course. Pilots must meet all the required pre-requisites for obtaining an ATP listed above, while meeting the ATP minimum flight hour criteria listed below:
Flight Hours
- 1500 Total Flight Time
- 250 Pilot-In-Command (PIC) hours fixed wing
- 500 Total Cross Country hours or 200 hours for a restricted ATP (R-ATP) under FAR 1.160 (f)
- 100 Cross Country PIC hours
- 100 Night Flight Time hours
- 25 Night PIC hours
- 75 Instrument Training hours
- 50 Multi-Engine Land hours
Excuse me, I'm talking about what I mentioned earlier. Is that opportunity still valid or operational?
The school is in the Orlando area if I am not mistaken. You are not employed during this course. It is done before Indoc, before onboarding, before earning a seniority number. Consider it your last step of the interview.
If you meet the requirements, by all means apply.
12-28-2023, 07:41 AM
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Yes, all of them are clear. Thank you. It was a great help.
I hope this policy will also apply to foreign military pilots with green cards.
Considering that it is before joining, I think It will learn 737.
Could I tell them that I want to get a 747 rating for during ATP-CTP Type rating. I hope for at Atlas when I enter Atlas?
I hope this policy will also apply to foreign military pilots with green cards.
Considering that it is before joining, I think It will learn 737.
Could I tell them that I want to get a 747 rating for during ATP-CTP Type rating. I hope for at Atlas when I enter Atlas?
12-28-2023, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TaewoongShin
Yes, all of them are clear. Thank you. It was a great help.
I hope this policy will also apply to foreign military pilots with green cards.
Considering that it is before joining, I think It will learn 737.
Could I tell them that I want to get a 747 rating for during ATP-CTP Type rating. I hope for at Atlas when I enter Atlas?
I hope this policy will also apply to foreign military pilots with green cards.
Considering that it is before joining, I think It will learn 737.
Could I tell them that I want to get a 747 rating for during ATP-CTP Type rating. I hope for at Atlas when I enter Atlas?
Once you get your green card, apply to every airline you can and get yourself established in the States. Don't wait on Atlas before embarking on your American Dream.
12-31-2023, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TaewoongShin
Considering that it is before joining, I think It will learn 737.
Could I tell them that I want to get a 747 rating for during ATP-CTP Type rating. I hope for at Atlas when I enter Atlas?
Could I tell them that I want to get a 747 rating for during ATP-CTP Type rating. I hope for at Atlas when I enter Atlas?
There is some similarity between most Boeing airplanes. So doing some of the sim lessons in any Boeing would probably be better than an Airbus or RJ.
01-02-2024, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Clue32
This is still a valid method of being hired. The interview process is the same as for candidates with an ATP. HR will determine if they want to invest in a candidate by funding the ATP. It is by no means guaranteed.
The school is in the Orlando area if I am not mistaken. You are not employed during this course. It is done before Indoc, before onboarding, before earning a seniority number. Consider it your last step of the interview.
If you meet the requirements, by all means apply.
The school is in the Orlando area if I am not mistaken. You are not employed during this course. It is done before Indoc, before onboarding, before earning a seniority number. Consider it your last step of the interview.
If you meet the requirements, by all means apply.
Those that are current in aircraft where there are simulators readily available, e.g. Boeing or Airbus can elect to pay a fee to do their ATP in a simulator. Atlas pays for the ATP course and flight check. When available the candidate will pay the difference in cost for the simulator over the normal cost of an aircraft flight check.
01-06-2024, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Cleared4appch
As someone who came from a single engine turboprop background as well, and all of it being PIC and none of the worthless ‘right seat time,’ take my advice and go to a regional. Get some experience in jets first. I don’t work for atlas, I work at a regional, but I’d imagine going straight into their training program with zero jet time is like trying to do a marathon with no preparation or conditioning for it. You are more vulnerable to being chewed up and spit out compared to someone who has jet experience. Can it be done? Yea, but you’re taking a risk when it comes to washing out.
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