For anyone still considering Atlas, management has said it will be 2 years before we have a new contract and we will NOT be able to vote on it. This is assuming Atlas is still around in 2 years and not amalgamated into non existance.

 

Don't forget that 30+ have left already this month and it's pretty much given at this pace that 1/4 of the whole pilot group will leave in 2017. Since most see that at this pace it not realistic that the airline can grow anymore (or stay the same size even) attrition will only increase too. Captains in their 50's leaving. Sad to watch it fall apart so fast when most here loved the place and wanted it to be a last stop.

 

Indeed, it is sad. After being here for just over a year (and enjoying the job) I had hopes that the CBA issues would come to a quick resolve. As far as I'm concerned, I do not trust any of the people in charge of this company, they got their big bonuses and it seems that they really don't care anymore where this place ia heading because they will be gone before it goes belly up. The fantasy of all these amazon airplanes coming over when they are not even able to retain enough pilots just for the current flying (let alone the future one) is alarming. It's sad, but fortunately there are many jobs out there, in real, stable companies, so apps are out and updated, logbook up to date.
1 year at atlas is all it took to get me back on the job market. Some of my classmates were smarter, didn't wait and are already enjoying a descent seniority number elsewhere...

 

Well let's hope I'll get in then

( waving from the bean fields....pick me pick me pick me?!)

 

You are aware that the regionals are hiring, right? First year pay around $60k with flow-through agreements to the majors.

Don't let the big airplanes at Atlas fool you into thinking this is place is even remotely on par with a major airline. Terrible pay, terrible work rules and a bleak future. Most pilots here are doing everything they can to get out.

AtlasFacts.org

You have been warned.

 

Any new classes scheduled? I know about:

Jan. 30-747
Feb. 6-767

Thanks.

 

For some it may be a step down but for me it would be a major step up.
So just a matter of context and circumstance.
Let's leave it at that.

 

No matter what your background and experience, you have better options than Atlas.
If you do come here, I hope you get a better job soon!

 

Story time for those actually considering Atlas...

So I talked to a guy who's NOT on probation (past 1st year pay) who's accepted a tour with the military to work at Al Eudied Air Base in Qatar the next 4 months instead of working at Atlas. Why is this significant? OFF of probation where pay increases this individual would rather go live in a small Conex (slightly better than a tent) WITH a roommate than work for Atlas. He'd rather go to stay out in the middle of the desert where he's not allowed to drink, is confined to the base, and eats out of a chow hall for 4 straight months. No TV in his room and a shower in what's known as a "Cadillac" (communal showers and bathrooms in trailers). Make ZERO mistake about it - We're ****ed. If you come here you'll be expected to be part of the team and you know it's going to be BAD here for a very long time.

 

I think this is the most important thing for prospective hires/applicants to understand; yes it sounds interesting to fly a big piece of metal to obscure places even if you have been fair
warned that the pay and qol is off the charts low BUT, make no mistake and understand you will be walking in to a battle and you will be held accountable to fight, and shots will be fired from management. Its a really ugly situation and there really is no way to sit on the sidelines.