Ludicrous Speed

We could go back and forth about the minutia all day. The fact remains that ultimately, seniority determines your base.

ANC is junior + New-hires are junior = New-hires get based in ANC

jackcarls0n

Few questions regarding Atlas. I got invited for an online assessment. Currently I am flying 747 for an Asian carrier making about 90-100k net including everything (perdiem, OT etc.). If anyone can answer some of the questions would be great.

i) Would Atlas be a good airline long term? or is it considered to be a stepping stone to the majors/legacy carriers? My goal is to get to a major/legacy carrier.
ii) Is JFK a base for the 747? If so how junior is it?
iii) What is the schedule like on the 767 compared to the 747?
iv) The first year grantee after OE is 50 hours or 62 hours? APC page isn't clear about that.
v) First year pay seems to be at par with some of the regional airline, how does the second year pay works out for most of the guys?
vi) Does the pilot group being sued by the company affect the contract negotiation? Any chance of getting a contract in the next year or two?
vii) Would you say Kalitta is a better cargo outfit than Atlas? It is subjective but just to get an idea.

captainv

i) Not unless we get a new CBA on par with other major carriers. It can be a stepping stone depending on your background. why are you not getting interest from the majors? Do you need PIC? Would Atlas make that much of a difference on your resume, since you already have 747 time?
ii) yes, only 32 FOs (that base has shrunk over the years), junior guy has been here a little over 1.5 years, it's also the senior 767 base.
iii) it's very different. perhaps you should investigate this more.
iv) min guarantee is 50 first year, 62 thereafter.
v) take the hourly pay, multiply by 72, then by 12. That's a decent WAG for what you'll make 2nd year and beyond. I've been here 5+ years and have not broken $100k yet. That would be easier to do if you get the 747.
vi) in what way would it help? yes, there's a chance. I also have a chance at winning the lottery if i buy a ticket.
vii) before their new deal? No. Now? Probably. I don't keep tabs on the fine details, but their pay rates are certainly better. Dig into their work rules and decide.

jackcarls0n

Thanks for sharing the information CaptainV. Guess best bet is to try to get on to the 747. But does the company decide which candidates goes on which fleet or is it the seniority at the time of ground class?

Stratocruzr

Know before you go!!!

Profit sharing checks out today, most recieve less then $100!!!

Thats right $100.00, while the execs took home 66 million in bonuses.

captainv

Company decides, but hiring for the 747 currently outpaces the 767 2 to 1. Plus, they're not exactly in a position to turn away qualified candidates. You might have to wait a class or two, but most likely they'd give it to you.

also: AtlasFacts.org

Twin Wasp

Strato,

It was 1.4% of last year's pay. If you're talking take home after taxes, union dues and 401k, that would make the payout around 180 which means according to your statement "most" Atlas pilots made less than 13k last year. It's screwed up but you lose credibility when you go that far from reality.

CandlerKid

Well since you don't get full profit sharing until after your 2nd full year and with all the hiring lately he could be right. Hundreds under 1 year get $0 and everybody in year 2 gets prorated amounts, most being very low.

Cylinderpop

So they are allowing you to delay your class date if you want to get the desired equipment? This seems strange considering the southern air switcheroo they have been said to be pulling.

Stratocruzr

17 year captain reported $350.00. Is that better for you?