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Old 03-14-2023 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver
Yup. We're all mushrooms. Hopefully Apollo wasn't relying on any Silicon Valley Bank loans to complete the purchase (for their sake anyway, it's "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" from my seat).
I was just thinking the same thing.
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Old 03-14-2023 | 04:49 PM
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For the lurkers and previous commenters: Company just announced regulatory approval for going private.

Still not a done deal. Definitely closer, though I don’t think that was surprising given the lack of an airline merger and the (relatively out of the way - from a regulators perspective - nature of the) space we work in.

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Old 03-14-2023 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver
Yup. We're all mushrooms. Hopefully Apollo wasn't relying on any Silicon Valley Bank loans to complete the purchase (for their sake anyway, it's "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" from my seat).
Apollo is over 2 times larger than all of SVB combined. Big fish usually don't swim with small fish, and Apollo is a big fish.
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Old 03-14-2023 | 05:23 PM
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Good to know
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Old 03-15-2023 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
Apollo is over 2 times larger than all of SVB combined. Big fish usually don't swim with small fish, and Apollo is a big fish.
How many bad decisions does it require for a big fish?

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Old 03-15-2023 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
How many bad decisions does it require for a big fish?

The best way to figure how Apollo will affect Atlas is to look at their other airline purchases. The airlines may be cargo or passenger, but the purchasing company's philosophy is the same. When Icahn bought TWA we all new what was to come, same with Eastern. Hopefully for my Polaroid friends things will turn out better
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Old 03-15-2023 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 3pointlanding
The best way to figure how Apollo will affect Atlas is to look at their other airline purchases. The airlines may be cargo or passenger, but the purchasing company's philosophy is the same. When Icahn bought TWA we all new what was to come, same with Eastern. Hopefully for my Polaroid friends things will turn out better
Luckily they haven't gutted previous airlines. That said having successive bank failures occurring combined with dropping freight rates right as Apollo buys us is a little unsettling. Credit Suisse and a basket of other American banks are creaking under strain tonight. A lot depends on how Apollo's other investments look.
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Old 03-15-2023 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Elevation
Luckily they haven't gutted previous airlines. That said having successive bank failures occurring combined with dropping freight rates right as Apollo buys us is a little unsettling. Credit Suisse and a basket of other American banks are creaking under strain tonight. A lot depends on how Apollo's other investments look.
Atlas is less than 1% of Apollo portfolio. No-one wants to buy 50 747s right now, so they would have to dump them for pennies on the dollar.
Safe to say, it would make no sense for Apollo to sell us.
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Old 03-15-2023 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
Atlas is less than 1% of Apollo portfolio. No-one wants to buy 50 747s right now, so they would have to dump them for pennies on the dollar.
Safe to say, it would make no sense for Apollo to sell us.
True, and good point. Also they'd take a huge loss. Lots of better ways to raise money.
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Old 03-16-2023 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Elevation
True, and good point. Also they'd take a huge loss. Lots of better ways to raise money.
If we were bought by Carl Icahn or any known corporate raider, I would be more concerned. Being bought by Apollo is similar to being bought by Berkshire Hathaway.
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