Atlas Air Hiring
02-05-2023 | 03:53 PM
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02-05-2023 | 04:49 PM
In a land of unicorns
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From: Whale FO
People have been saying this same thing for as long as this thread has been going (10+ years), and it hasn't happened yet.
02-06-2023 | 02:08 AM
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Of those 1500 FOs, there are a few “career FOs” that will likely never see the left seat, lots of FOs still bypass the upgrade, a few live abroad and don’t want to upgrade because they won’t be able to bid lines that allow them to keep living abroad comfortably. The average attrition remains 25-40/month, 5-10 retires a month, and 8-20 upgrades/month, I would say as long as we don’t lose an entire fleet, those upgrade time will remain fairly accurate
02-06-2023 | 01:33 PM
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I recently received an invitation to do an initial interview with Atlas. I applied to the pathway to success program as I only have 1500 hours of GA time. They seem a few weeks out even for the preliminary interview. What can I expect as far as the interview timeline and process if moved forward in the process? How many interviews are there?
02-06-2023 | 07:50 PM
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Of those 1500 FOs, there are a few “career FOs” that will likely never see the left seat, lots of FOs still bypass the upgrade, a few live abroad and don’t want to upgrade because they won’t be able to bid lines that allow them to keep living abroad comfortably. The average attrition remains 25-40/month, 5-10 retires a month, and 8-20 upgrades/month, I would say as long as we don’t lose an entire fleet, those upgrade time will remain fairly accurate
When I upgraded the upgrade times were around 3 years. They’re now about 5.5 years as I recall and it’s only been 4 years. That’s not a good trend for people looking for an upgrade, or for the junior Captains.
02-07-2023 | 03:32 AM
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Handful? Like few hundred a year in widebodies. That's quite a bit more than a handful. And it looked like we did not "shut down" in the 4th quarter. Do you even look at the vacancy emails?
People have been saying this same thing for as long as this thread has been going (10+ years), and it hasn't happened yet.
People have been saying this same thing for as long as this thread has been going (10+ years), and it hasn't happened yet.
Like it or not, our upgrade is trending in the wrong direction.
02-07-2023 | 07:46 AM
In a land of unicorns
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From: Whale FO
Latest vacancy had 12 747/777 upgrades. Previous vacancy had 12. One before that had 18 WB upgrades. Averaging around 200-250 a year. What is laughable?
02-07-2023 | 09:12 AM
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There is a big difference between vacancies and upgrades. Oftentimes vacancies in base are filled by CAs moving from one base to another.
02-07-2023 | 09:25 AM
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From: Whale FO
That is also why there were 4 767 CA upgrades in 2023-01 vacancy award, even though there were no vacancies for 767 CA. And why there were 5 ANC 747 CA upgrade awards, even though there were no 747CA ANC vacancies.
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