Atlas Air Hiring
02-05-2023, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jrmyl
Junior Captains: 747-1/17, 777-1/19, 767-8/17, 737-12/19
777 is misleading though as Southern upgraded several just prior to the merger that probably would not have been able to upgrade after the merger. Not sure what the most recent bid award junior captain was for it.
777 is misleading though as Southern upgraded several just prior to the merger that probably would not have been able to upgrade after the merger. Not sure what the most recent bid award junior captain was for it.
02-05-2023, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash
For the record, Scott L of Atlas posted the vacancies for Southern at that time. It wasn’t some backroom deal that Southern snuck through.
02-05-2023, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr
A new hire may never see upgrade here. We have over 1500 FO’s.
Let’s face it. We only upgrade a handful during the year, and shut down in the 4th Qtr.
Easy math.
Let’s face it. We only upgrade a handful during the year, and shut down in the 4th Qtr.
Easy math.
02-05-2023, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr
A new hire may never see upgrade here. We have over 1500 FO’s.
Let’s face it. We only upgrade a handful during the year, and shut down in the 4th Qtr.
Easy math.
Let’s face it. We only upgrade a handful during the year, and shut down in the 4th Qtr.
Easy math.
People have been saying this same thing for as long as this thread has been going (10+ years), and it hasn't happened yet.
02-06-2023, 02:08 AM
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Of those 1500 FOs, there are a few “career FOs” that will likely never see the left seat, lots of FOs still bypass the upgrade, a few live abroad and don’t want to upgrade because they won’t be able to bid lines that allow them to keep living abroad comfortably. The average attrition remains 25-40/month, 5-10 retires a month, and 8-20 upgrades/month, I would say as long as we don’t lose an entire fleet, those upgrade time will remain fairly accurate
02-06-2023, 01:33 PM
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I recently received an invitation to do an initial interview with Atlas. I applied to the pathway to success program as I only have 1500 hours of GA time. They seem a few weeks out even for the preliminary interview. What can I expect as far as the interview timeline and process if moved forward in the process? How many interviews are there?
02-06-2023, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 160to4
Of those 1500 FOs, there are a few “career FOs” that will likely never see the left seat, lots of FOs still bypass the upgrade, a few live abroad and don’t want to upgrade because they won’t be able to bid lines that allow them to keep living abroad comfortably. The average attrition remains 25-40/month, 5-10 retires a month, and 8-20 upgrades/month, I would say as long as we don’t lose an entire fleet, those upgrade time will remain fairly accurate
When I upgraded the upgrade times were around 3 years. They’re now about 5.5 years as I recall and it’s only been 4 years. That’s not a good trend for people looking for an upgrade, or for the junior Captains.
02-07-2023, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
Handful? Like few hundred a year in widebodies. That's quite a bit more than a handful. And it looked like we did not "shut down" in the 4th quarter. Do you even look at the vacancy emails?
People have been saying this same thing for as long as this thread has been going (10+ years), and it hasn't happened yet.
People have been saying this same thing for as long as this thread has been going (10+ years), and it hasn't happened yet.
Like it or not, our upgrade is trending in the wrong direction.
02-07-2023, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr
“A few hundred a year in upgrades. That’s laughable. The last 2 vacancies had zero on the 767 and a handful on the 77/74.
Like it or not, our upgrade is trending in the wrong direction.
Like it or not, our upgrade is trending in the wrong direction.
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