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Talon1011 11-18-2014 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by Bluesville (Post 1765926)
Im sorry, I have to ask if this is true... they are suspending interviews till next year.
If this is true when will they start the process again?
Thanks! ... and for those getting in.. I hate you! haha kidding. But congrats guys (and gals)

I don't know the interview schedule but every December the training center in Miami (that's where the interviews are held) ratchets down. Two reasons: The weeks around Christmas are quiet for training and a lot of the people are out flying. December is a busy month with our usual flying as well as the UPS and FedEx contracts we pick up. I don't know if interviews are on hold in December or not but if they are it will take off again like gangbusters after the first of the year, I'm certain.

DC8DRIVER 11-19-2014 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by Ohio Farmer (Post 1765674)
OK..... I got the email for the online assessment, :o and would welcome help from anyone that has been through it as to subjects covered, recommended study material, etc. Basically, any and all help would be appreciated before I take this test. The email indicates that I have a few weeks to do it, but I want to take it sooner, than later.
I come from the domestic 135 world, and the assessment has a global slant to it I am told.

Do a search of this thread to find the info you are looking for. International ops and weather are big and there are resources that are quoted here that will help you out. I'd tell you, but I don't want to misquote or omit any reference material as it has been a while since I used it.

If you get enough posts, I'll PM you the stuff I have which might help.

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A8FR8DOG 11-21-2014 08:20 AM

I heard there is a Dec 3rd interview class happening.

DoomedTX 11-21-2014 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by A8FR8DOG (Post 1768023)
I heard there is a Dec 3rd interview class happening.

That might explain the call I got last night. Unfortunately I was working and they had to leave a message. I called back and left my own. Now I'm jumping at every call in case it's them :)

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SVA402 11-21-2014 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by DoomedTX (Post 1768031)
That might explain the call I got last night. Unfortunately I was working and they had to leave a message. I called back and left my own. Now I'm jumping at every call in case it's them :)

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Do not wait for them to call back, they may not. They have a poor history with that. Keep calling a few times a day until you reach who you're looking for.

DoomedTX 11-21-2014 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by SVA402 (Post 1768065)
Do not wait for them to call back, they may not. They have a poor history with that. Keep calling a few times a day until you reach who you're looking for.

Thanks for the advice! I called and was invited to the Dec 3rd interview.

SVA402 11-21-2014 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by DoomedTX (Post 1768130)
Thanks for the advice! I called and was invited to the Dec 3rd interview.

Congrats on the invite! I know people don't like to be pushy but they have a history with that so glad you did it!

744driver 11-21-2014 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by SVA402 (Post 1768171)
Congrats on the invite! I know people don't like to be pushy but they have a history with that so glad you did it!

The word "history" in this case would be defined as the arrogance that comes with a large influx of resumes, and interest in the job opportunities at Atlas. :mad::p

Whaledriver 11-21-2014 01:42 PM

Confirmed, interviews 2 & 3 Dec. in PURCHASE, not MIA. Make plans accordingly.

DoomedTX 11-21-2014 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Whaledriver (Post 1768286)
Confirmed, interviews 2 & 3 Dec. in PURCHASE, not MIA. Make plans accordingly.

With all the snow up there I thought they'd be going for MIA. ;) I am looking right now for how to get there while minimizing time away from my current job, how to get around while I'm there, etc. If anyone else would like to pool resources and share cabs, etc, please let me know. Right now I'm planning on the Residence Inn White Plains since I have enough Marriott Points to pay for it. With no hotel shuttle, it's starting to look like renting a car might be more cost effective, though I'm not fond of driving in unfamiliar cities when already stressing about an interview.

Booyah150 11-21-2014 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER (Post 1766389)
Do a search of this thread to find the info you are looking for. International ops and weather are big and there are resources that are quoted here that will help you out. I'd tell you, but I don't want to misquote or omit any reference material as it has been a while since I used it.

If you get enough posts, I'll PM you the stuff I have which might help.

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Someone put together an index to the thread that I found helpful...link here: http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hi...iring-943.html

Scroll down to post number 9430

Generally the gouge is on target. Highly recommend CRM usage... Took mine in Sep...there were NAT, weather, approach plate ,STAR, and descent planning (using a STAR where do you need to start your descent if you need to be at x altitude by x point using a 3:1 ratio for example) questions. Also several right off the ATP question bank.

Bluesville 11-23-2014 06:05 AM

TALON1011

Thanks. I figured things would be quiet for Peak but I wanted to make sure that was the reason. I now have someone on the inside whose helping me out but that was almost two months ago and still nothing. Think I'll knock on the door again in Jan.

For those of you getting the interview, good luck!

egpilot13 11-23-2014 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by flyinturbo (Post 1755552)
Hey all,

I interviewed on oct 7th and was tossed into the pool on the 16th via an email. No call yet to go to class.

I thought I'd touch a bit on my process and quals for others here:

I'm a 6300+ hr pilot with 2 regional FO seats (1 furlough) under my belt, some 135 air ambulance and most recently a CJ training capt flying 135 on demand around the US.

I thought my interview went very well and I was quite happy with myself for doing what I felt like a decent job! I'm sure the 3 letters of recommendation helped as well (thanks guys... really appreciate it!). I was pretty intimidated at the interview as I was surrounded by a number of very qualified and knowledgeable pilots from other heavy carriers (8 previous heavy pilots, I think?) with a couple of regional guys thrown into the mix.

I originally submitted my app on 7/15 and received an invite to do the online test on 7/30. Since I typically work 25+ days/mo with 13 - 14 hour, 5 - 6 leg days, I didn't have a chance to take the test for a few weeks. I finally took the test on a sit and scored a 78%. I thought the test was pretty tough and I used every minute to finish it (I had just over a minute on the clock when I did the last question!). I was then invited to the interview and given my choice of days. Since the 7th was literally my only day off, I chose that date. I had family fedex my suit to me and had it tailored on the road (it has been a while since I interviewed last...my jacket was a wee bit tight.. oops!). I also carried it around till the 7th in the nose of the plane I was flying. I worked a long schedule on the 6th, flying from LAX to TEB (fuel stop in MKC), then an airline to MIA for the interview. I arrived at the hotel around 1:30 am and got up at 5 to get ready. Needless to say, I was exhausted.

I kind of wished I had read this forum first but things worked out anyway. Looking back, I should have studied for the test, hoping for a higher score. I took the test cold and relied on knowledge to get me through. I think I got pretty darn lucky instead!

Reading this forum from about the 200 page mark, I see kind of what I expected to see... a mix of happy and unhappy pilots. There seems to be some really excellent information from quite a few really knowledgeable folks, thank you so much for the time and energy you put in here. It's good Atlas has negotiations coming up, perhaps a few of the complaints will get fixed. I've read a LOT about changes to schedules. 135 charter really has taught me about being flexible with schedule as the schedule I was delivered the night before was almost never what was factual. There were many times I'd get a sat phone call on a part 91 repo flight asking me to divert because a trip popped up. Change is the only constant!

I actually really enjoy the work I do now and have considered not leaving, but with no payscale, no retirement and a choice between QoL or decent pay, I think I'll be better off at Atlas.

I'm also quite humbled by a number of posters here who've been applying for what appears to be years and no phone calls. Sorry fellas, not sure how I got lucky, but I did.

Looking forward to class and getting online. The schedule will be a relief for me.. with 17 days being way less than I'm used to working. My QoL will be improved dramatically.

Thank you again for all the amazing information delivered here. I hope to pay it forward someday to someone like me.

Got the invite for the Dec 3 interview! Congratulations flyinturbo.

CtYank66 11-23-2014 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by DoomedTX (Post 1768291)
With all the snow up there I thought they'd be going for MIA. ;) I am looking right now for how to get there while minimizing time away from my current job, how to get around while I'm there, etc. If anyone else would like to pool resources and share cabs, etc, please let me know. Right now I'm planning on the Residence Inn White Plains since I have enough Marriott Points to pay for it. With no hotel shuttle, it's starting to look like renting a car might be more cost effective, though I'm not fond of driving in unfamiliar cities when already stressing about an interview.

Hi Captain!
Ck. geo. BUF(snow) almost 350 miles from Purchase (still red&brown)!
HPN 10 mins away, LGA 35 mins. away, (no traffic) But... what happens between now and Dec.?

doverby 11-23-2014 06:45 PM

After hoping for a call for a couple of months, I have been invited to the December 2nd interview in Purchase, NY. Very excited to join the team should I be chosen!

I plan on flying into HPN on Monday Dec 1st, staying nearby, and using a hotel shuttle or Uber/Lyft to get to the interview Tuesday morning. Afterward, I will likely be heading to LGA or JFK via Uber/Lyft/Cab for a flight back home.

If there is anyone else planning a similar trip, PM me to set up a cab share / room share (holy expensive $$ for hotels).

SherpaDerpa 11-24-2014 08:27 PM

I'm currently deployed and scheduled to return in the next 45-100 days (thanks US Army) I am ready to submit my Resume and PAQ but my 1st Class has expired with no way to renew it until my return... Anyone willing to offer any advice, conjecture or speculation?

C5nwhaleguy 11-25-2014 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by SherpaDerpa (Post 1770584)
I'm currently deployed and scheduled to return in the next 45-100 days (thanks US Army) I am ready to submit my Resume and PAQ but my 1st Class has expired with no way to renew it until my return... Anyone willing to offer any advice, conjecture or speculation?

I'd send it anyway to get your date of receipt started with the attached explanation above is fine and just update monthly. i'm guessing you have a current military flight physical equivalent? Thanks for your service and safe return!

TimmyR 11-25-2014 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by C5nwhaleguy (Post 1770651)
I'd send it anyway to get your date of receipt started with the attached explanation above is fine and just update monthly. i'm guessing you have a current military flight physical equivalent? Thanks for your service and safe return!

Agreed. I'd do exactly that. At least then you've applied and can update.

SherpaDerpa 11-25-2014 11:26 AM

Atlas Air Hiring
 
Thanks guys! Guess I need to update and send it on so I can get in line for swim time in the pool. 😉

doverby 11-27-2014 08:09 AM

So I've been through the thread, but it's been a little while. Most of the past interviewees said the interviews were straighforward, with questions about what are typically expected. Jepps, maybe some other technical, why the desire to work for Atlas, tell me about a time, why not _____ (insert other airline here)?

In their invite email, they indicated that they'd like interviewees to show up after having read the company annual report. There's some great information in the annual report, but does anyone know of an area of this 117 page document that one should focus on? It's a pretty in depth, interesting report on the company. Do they want you to know what percentage of fuel expense was mitigated through the increased efficiency of the 747-8F in 2013, or do they want you to speak intelligently about broader categories, such as being able to list ACMI and CMI customers of theirs, fleet size, etc. Thoughts?


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Radials Rule 11-27-2014 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by doverby (Post 1771788)
So I've been through the thread, but it's been a little while. Most of the past interviewees said the interviews were straighforward, with questions about what are typically expected. Jepps, maybe some other technical, why the desire to work for Atlas, tell me about a time, why not _____ (insert other airline here)?

In their invite email, they indicated that they'd like interviewees to show up after having read the company annual report. There's some great information in the annual report, but does anyone know of an area of this 117 page document that one should focus on? It's a pretty in depth, interesting report on the company. Do they want you to know what percentage of fuel expense was mitigated through the increased efficiency of the 747-8F in 2013, or do they want you to speak intelligently about broader categories, such as being able to list ACMI and CMI customers of theirs, fleet size, etc. Thoughts?


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Prior to my interviewe in May, I was also instructed to look over the annual report. There were no questions about it in my interview. YMMV.

captainv 11-27-2014 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by doverby (Post 1771788)
In their invite email, they indicated that they'd like interviewees to show up after having read the company annual report. There's some great information in the annual report, but does anyone know of an area of this 117 page document that one should focus on?

One guy at my interview had an inch-thick stack of charts, graphs and reports explaining who knows what about the company. He probably knew more about the operation that day than I do after three years on property.

Personally, I would skim the annual report in accordance with your level of interest. I just really don't get into the business side of things, so I knew what ACMI was, what Gateway was, who the majors customers were and some of the major routes we flew for them. IMO, anything beyond that is extra credit.

744driver 11-27-2014 08:40 PM

I would also be familiar with some of our competitors, our fleet types, and some of our key customers.

AQPABC 11-28-2014 03:05 AM

I was given a scenario, (flight from HNL-SYD) and then asked what customer that might be for. I would know basics of the operation like fleet count, customers, etc.

ATCsaidDoWhat 11-28-2014 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by doverby (Post 1771788)
So I've been through the thread, but it's been a little while. Most of the past interviewees said the interviews were straighforward, with questions about what are typically expected. Jepps, maybe some other technical, why the desire to work for Atlas, tell me about a time, why not _____ (insert other airline here)?

In their invite email, they indicated that they'd like interviewees to show up after having read the company annual report. There's some great information in the annual report, but does anyone know of an area of this 117 page document that one should focus on? It's a pretty in depth, interesting report on the company. Do they want you to know what percentage of fuel expense was mitigated through the increased efficiency of the 747-8F in 2013, or do they want you to speak intelligently about broader categories, such as being able to list ACMI and CMI customers of theirs, fleet size, etc. Thoughts?


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Understand what the company does and how ACMI works. And how a customer leased, demand driven operation means that once the wheels are up on Leg 1, all bets may or may not be off in terms of your schedule. Which means you may not be back for that holiday of special event and no, they're not going to fly you home for it if you get magically "sick."

If you can do that as well as understand and fully accept that it's not a 3 on 4 off domestic job and never will be...you will have gleaned the critical parts of the report.

Truth is, they're getting fed up with guys who come, get the rating, complain from Day 1 about how they did it at Brand X, and start pumping resumes to legacies as soon as the type rating is in their hip pocket. It cost's a lot of $$ for them to do that and lose someone and they're over it.

captainv 11-28-2014 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat (Post 1772162)
Truth is, they're getting fed up with guys who come, get the rating, complain from Day 1 about how they did it at Brand X, and start pumping resumes to legacies as soon as the type rating is in their hip pocket. It cost's a lot of $$ for them to do that and lose someone and they're over it.

Boo hoo. If they made any strides toward improving QoL instead of degrading it in every quadrant, perhaps some of us would be more inclined to stay...

DC8DRIVER 11-28-2014 07:45 AM

The Atlas suggestion to review the annual report was, to me, a "how much are you interested in Atlas" type of thing.

I got the basics of the fleet count, the customers and routes, and then I cherry picked a few numbers that I could quote during the interview to show that I had, indeed, done what they suggested. I chose to highlight the year to year net profit for the previous three years.

Not only did I have a chance to recite these numbers when they asked what I knew about Atlas, but for me it was pretty interesting to see that in '08, '09, and 10 Atlas had basically doubled their net profit each year. It added genuine enthusiasm from me to the discussion during the interview which they seemed to pick up.

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Atlas Shrugged 11-28-2014 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by captainv (Post 1772226)
Boo hoo. If they made any strides toward improving QoL instead of degrading it in every quadrant, perhaps some of us would be more inclined to stay...

This forum needs a like button.

Does it say anything in that report about imputed taxes and profit sharing?

Galaxydriver 11-28-2014 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat (Post 1772162)

Truth is, they're getting fed up with guys who come, get the rating, complain from Day 1 about how they did it at Brand X, and start pumping resumes to legacies as soon as the type rating is in their hip pocket. It cost's a lot of $$ for them to do that and lose someone and they're over it.

Hopefully they don't don't think that's the only reason why people are leaving. Sure, there are a few, but the nickle and dime stuff from scheduling to travel and training are the bigger issues. QoL issues that could be solved. The new contract will be 2 years to late to save a lot of these losses.

thesandbox 11-28-2014 12:06 PM

ATCSaidItsWhat :confused:

please refer to here....
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...-go-ual-7.html

thesandbox 11-28-2014 01:02 PM

What a lot of people fail to realize here is that you will basically be a salaried pilot which only costs the company a fixed amount that they have built in. About the only way you will break your rig for days on is to block more than about 77-78 hours in a 17 day period or if they send you home early you would have to hard block over 62 hours in about 13 days just to break guarantee. There might be a few on the 747 that can do that but on the 767 I would venture to say that has never happened. You go fly a NRT-SYD-PVG turn where you block about 21 hours...guess what you are paid???....less than 10 hours for your time flying the legs on those days. Most anywhere else that would put you about 11 hours over guarantee right there. Nope not here....you are salaried at less than 5 hours a day to be gone 17 days and commute on mostly days off. That amounts to neither fair pay nor QOL.

chip1 11-28-2014 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat (Post 1772162)
Truth is, they're getting fed up with guys who come, get the rating, complain from Day 1 about how they did it at Brand X, and start pumping resumes to legacies as soon as the type rating is in their hip pocket. It cost's a lot of $$ for them to do that and lose someone and they're over it.

No, they aren't getting fed up over it and it doesn't cost them the amount of money you think. There is a STACK of resumes of people wanting to work for Atlas as proved by this thread alone. Their training costs are so low that the revolving door doesn't hurt them enough, because it clearly doesn't show in their willingness to change anything. The only thing that will make them aware is if the planes stop moving, which they haven't had much of a hiccup with yet...(keep on out basing!!!) They do not care about you, or us, or hiring, or other contracts, or training expenses. If they did, don't you think it would be clear? Do you really think they are forward looking? No, and its clear every single day out on line. There hasn't been one single indication from Atlas that the things you mention are true. Money is the only thing they understand and we haven't communicated that well enough yet, believe it.

captainv 11-28-2014 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by thesandbox (Post 1772411)
What a lot of people fail to realize here is that you will basically be a salaried pilot which only costs the company a fixed amount that they have built in. About the only way you will break your rig for days on is to block more than about 77-78 hours in a 17 day period or if they send you home early you would have to hard block over 62 hours in about 13 days just to break guarantee. There might be a few on the 747 that can do that but on the 767 I would venture to say that has never happened. You go fly a NRT-SYD-PVG turn where you block about 21 hours...guess what you are paid???....less than 10 hours for your time flying the legs on those days. Most anywhere else that would put you about 11 hours over guarantee right there. Nope not here....you are salaried at less than 5 hours a day to be gone 17 days and commute on mostly days off. That amounts to neither fair pay nor QOL.

My average over three years is right at 72 hours credit/month. DHL side is more stable than AMC. But yeah, it's always been for days away. The exception was the SEA-Japan AMC run. Buddy did that for a few months straight and got paid off flight time.

Whale Driver 11-29-2014 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat (Post 1772162)
.................................................. ...........
Truth is, they're getting fed up with guys who come, get the rating, complain from Day 1 about how they did it at Brand X, and start pumping resumes to legacies as soon as the type rating is in their hip pocket. It cost's a lot of $$ for them to do that and lose someone and they're over it.

I hope that 90+% of those hired next year do that exact thing.

kingaira90 12-01-2014 12:49 AM

I am also interviewing on 12-3 in Purchase, NY. Staying at the Hilton (points), they said their shuttle will drop off at the Atlas HQ. They pick up at HPN also. Flying into HPN, actually bought a ticket for the flight up. Both delta and US air/AA had cheap one ways. Last flights that connect and get me home that night leave at just after 5pm so LGA might be the way to go if the interview goes late. I have prior 767/ACMI experience. Glad to get the call, hopefully I don't screw it up!

Tdubs 12-01-2014 06:50 PM

Atlas Air Hiring
 
Any word on why the interviews are in Purchase?

kingaira90 12-02-2014 01:03 AM

I was not given an explanation. She just said this is the first time they are doing interviews there (or first time it years?), normally always in MIA.

Whaledriver 12-02-2014 09:50 AM

They did some at Purchase earlier this year. It is an indication of last minute decisions and Purchase people unable to travel to MIA.

BayBum4Ever 12-02-2014 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Whale Driver (Post 1772723)
I hope that 90+% of those hired next year do that exact thing.

Please come to Atlas, get 10 weeks of free housing, per diem, a type rating in a big plane, a pleather jacket, update your resume and move on to a major. This is the only way things will ever get better for those left behind.
There are new hires finishing OE who have a class date at different majors, what a waste of time and effort.

6 more PC's (career days) until I can retire

BayBum

outaluckagain 12-02-2014 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by BayBum4Ever (Post 1774817)
Please come to Atlas, get 10 weeks of free housing, per diem, a type rating in a big plane, a pleather jacket, update your resume and move on to a major. This is the only way things will ever get better for those left behind.
There are new hires finishing OE who have a class date at different majors, what a waste of time and effort.

6 more PC's (career days) until I can retire

BayBum

If this cycle keeps up, they will make it PFT.


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