Polar, who is represented by 1224? Also, is there any word that the short course classes are going to be run before any more hiring is done in January? I'm pretty patient and just happy to be in the pool, but I like to have something to tell my wife about when classes might get started. She is not as tune with the vagaries of the hiring process.

this is most certianly targeting ATI / ABX pilots...

All this sure looks like a lot more than a couple extra 767's.

1)A 767 LAX selection on the new bid sheet.
2)A quick/little notice new hire 767 class.
3)A short course approval.
4)A pref hiring agreement that apparently Atlas management has signed.

All within 30 days, WT F over?

No love for us -400 guys??? Bummer, still trying to get my foot in the door:(

This has no effect on 744 hiring. This has come from left field and is good news but if you're in the pool, do not fret. We will still need at least 70 744 newhires.

Gee I wonder if 1224 and Atlas will step up and pref interview/hire K4s -400 furloughed pilots.....

My "WAG" would be no. On the 767 side of the house, Atlas is short of experience. This was a win-win for both parties. The union got union brothers and sisters pref hiring and the company got experience and cost savings with a shortened course. Plus it sounds like the company is in a hurry.

We are in very good shape on the 744 side, with 10 year FO's waiting for the left seat. So no need for the experience and no hurry.

Not saying it won't happen, just not a need on the company's side.

I guess we should expect all the new hire classes in the beginning of 2013 at 767....?

Actually, I have heard that there is NO short course...please someone with contacts somewhere, let us know...because I keep hearing both yes and no on that front.

As for 744 new-hires? Be patient, grasshopper...your turn will come soon. I realize the waiting is frustrating, especially when you consider that you are in the hiring pool having met all the requirements, and others come along and grab a 767 class...therefore, gaining seniority numbers on you. I'm not sure there is a solution for that...

Good luck...and best wishes.

LOL.... I knew the answer....