Can anyone who has been through the Miami interview lately comment on what the pay during training is?
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Originally Posted by bloomerpilot
(Post 1052727)
Can anyone who has been through the Miami interview lately comment on what the pay during training is?
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Originally Posted by Polarfr8dog
(Post 1052682)
I try and always be positive BUT here's to hoping I'm wrong and hoping they're not readjusting hiring numbers due to the arbitration results.
No strike clause Can't cross picket lines due to sensitive nature of military flying Lost a lot of scope Able to dry lease (Titan) airplanes can transfer here if they so choose from what I understand. Please tell me I'm wrong. |
Originally Posted by VF32TomCat
(Post 1052738)
traing pay is $1200 per month.
Don't bite on the sky is falling scope issues. There has never been a scope clause upheld that any company ever went after with both barrels. It is what it it is. |
Originally Posted by Polarfr8dog
(Post 1052682)
I try and always be positive BUT here's to hoping I'm wrong and hoping they're not readjusting hiring numbers due to the arbitration results.
No strike clause Can't cross picket lines due to sensitive nature of military flying Lost a lot of scope Able to dry lease (Titan) airplanes can transfer here if they so choose from what I understand. Please tell me I'm wrong. Oh -- but we get to share information from/to the company to see if they're in violation of Scope. Ask the ABX and Astar guys how good a pay raise is when you're in the unemployment line. After looking at the slide and listening to the DahlmanRose presentation by our CEO, things appear to be on the right track but there is no designation to where the -8's are going. So things are looking good here but you know what they say: keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Guess I'll find out in twenty years when I retire! :D |
Technically I don't think the pay rates (including training pay) change till October.
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Is anyone able to list the Octobober pay rate increases throughout the payscale?
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Originally Posted by 16Bob130
(Post 1052952)
Is anyone able to list the Octobober pay rate increases throughout the payscale?
747 Captain Years 1-12 201.00 195.15 189.46 183.94 178.59 173.38 168.33 163.43 158.67 154.05 149.56 145.21 747 First Officer / Flight Engineer Year 1-12 140.70 136.60 132.62 128.76 125.01 121.37 116.15 110.32 104.72 99.36 94.22 75.00 767 Captain Years 1-12 168.72 163.81 159.03 154.40 149.91 145.54 141.30 137.18 133.19 129.31 125.54 121.89 767 First Officer Years 1-12 118.10 114.66 111.32 108.08 104.93 101.88 97.50 92.60 87.90 83.40 79.09 75.00 |
Do the rates increase linearly (if there is such a word) over the 5 years? What is the yearly increase? Do perdiem and monthly guarantees remain the same? Awesome info-thanks for your time
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Per Diem goes up 5 cents, guarantee remain the same. Yes, linearly is a word. I don't think the increases meet the definition. Three year F/O goes up 1 dollar, 2 dollars, 1.03 and 2.06. Ten year Captains go up 1.80, 3.82 1.96 and 3.94.
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I received a pay-cut with the new contract. Actually, all 1st year FOs received a pay-cut. Our hourly did not change, but we pay almost twice as much for medical insurance now. So, less money in pocket. :rolleyes:
Time will tell with the quality of life issues. |
feedback on the 100 question test - much of the content discussed earlier in this thread is spot-on. The METAR, TAF, and Jepp plates were difficult to impossible to read, but that could be because I was using Google Chrome. There is a countdown clock that helps you track your pace. I had an insane amount of questions centered around the jetstream - or so it seemed. There were a handful of questions that can be learned by reading Ace the Technical Pilot Interview. Which you can read on-line for free at Ace the Technical Pilot Interview
I downloaded the MNPS supp from the ICAO website and read that. The most useful resource besides Google was the book Everything Explained for the Professional Pilot. I applied back in mid-April and did my phone interview on 8 Sept. bon chance |
I have interview this week!!! Any last minute advice?? Should I wear a tie??? Just Kidding ;)!!! And yes I did read all 225 pages of the thread . Thanks to all that contributed meaningful post to help those looking to get hired. For those interested I applied in late April and received call to test mid August. I was offered interview date in August but had prior job obligations. The HR lady then offered me a September or October date for interview via email. I replied two hours later that I would like one of the September dates after clearing my schedule at work and received an email that September was not an option anymore. Soooo feeling like I missed the ball by replying 2 hours after getting the email I opted for the day in October. The next day I received phone call that the September was available again. I replied within 2 secs that I would take it!!!:D
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Originally Posted by Polarfr8dog
(Post 1052682)
I try and always be positive BUT here's to hoping I'm wrong and hoping they're not readjusting hiring numbers due to the arbitration results.
No strike clause Can't cross picket lines due to sensitive nature of military flying Lost a lot of scope Able to dry lease (Titan) airplanes can transfer here if they so choose from what I understand. Please tell me I'm wrong. Oh -- but we get to share information from/to the company to see if they're in violation of Scope. Ask the ABX and Astar guys how good a pay raise is when you're in the unemployment line. After looking at the slide and listening to the DahlmanRose presentation by our CEO, things appear to be on the right track but there is no designation to where the -8's are going. So things are looking good here but you know what they say: keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Guess I'll find out in twenty years when I retire! :D |
Originally Posted by EllisCoastal
(Post 1053272)
I received a pay-cut with the new contract. Actually, all 1st year FOs received a pay-cut. Our hourly did not change, but we pay almost twice as much for medical insurance now. So, less money in pocket. :rolleyes:
Time will tell with the quality of life issues. 8 |
Is it still Cigna? How much was the cost for a family kind of guy and what is the new cost? Thanks to you and TW for your answers. In relation to the 82+ hours away from base-how does that account for a pay increase to first year FO's? My ignorance is surely showing here!
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Originally Posted by JerrySpringer
(Post 1053426)
From my perspective, I think you're over reading right now.
Just saw you're latest episode this morning -- Nice Job! Yeah, probably am but as you know my history, I'm always looking at how management MAY try and spin things. All in all, especially with the CRT, things are looking pretty good! Send me an email please, as your phone number didn't make the transition to my phone book on my cell. I was going to send you a text. C-YA |
Yes, still Cigna. There are in network only and in and outside. For this year in network family is running 57.50 each paycheck, in and outside 154.42. I think what DC-8 driver is saying is that if you're out 17 days, you'll break guarantee. If he's getting 82 hours credit a month I need to talk to him. I am out 14-17 days and got 90 hours total over guarantee last year for 8 months on the line and am at 80 for the year now. A lot depends on your base.
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The answer lies in the new trip rig. That results in making guarantee at 13 days or so away from home no matter if you turn a wheel or not. If you are out 17 days that brings the month to 82 hours regardless of how many hours you fly.
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The new rig is "similar" to TAFB, except it can be much greater.
The CBT as we are going to call it is TAFB + any hours in base that are less than 5 days. ex. if you worked 2 trips that each have a TAFB of 130 hours and they are 4 days apart that would be 130 + 130 + 96 (4 days in base). That is 354 CBT hours. 354/4.95= 71.51 hours CBT credit. So, your pay for the month would be the HIGHER of: 62 hour guarantee The actual credit earned CBT of 71.51 Clear as mud? Disclaimer: As I understand it today, YMMV. Corrections welcomed. |
Originally Posted by Whale Driver
(Post 1053765)
The new rig is "similar" to TAFB, except it can be much greater.
The CBT as we are going to call it is TAFB + any hours in base that are less than 5 days.Disclaimer: As I understand it today, YMMV. Corrections welcomed. Thanks! |
Anyone hear anything from Aug 23rd or 24th interviews?
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Still nothing. aug 23rd
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Still nothing here.
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Time Away From Base
( I knew that did not look right) CRT is the trip rig. 4.85 hours pay per calender day. However, it is calculated by the hour at 1 hour credit for 4.95 hours of CRT. Excluding R1 (home reserve)vacation, sick, training days ect. it is the time that you are NOT on days off (days off must be 5 or more in a row to count toward your minimum) at home. I am confusing myself now. |
Still Nothing Aug. 24th.
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Originally Posted by Whale Driver
(Post 1053778)
Time Away From Base
CBT is the trip rig. 4.85 hours pay per calender day. However, it is calculated by the hour at 1 hour credit for 4.95 hours of CBT. Excluding R1 (home reserve)vacation, sick, training days ect. it is the time that you are NOT on days off (days off must be 5 or more in a row to count toward your minimum) at home. I am confusing myself now. |
I had a missed call from Atlas HR lady earlier, when I called back it was 525 eastern time. Will call tomorrow morning. Interviewed August 23rd.
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Anybody have any details on the sept 19th 76 class? Got the drug test Fed Ex pack with the conditional employment letter but nothing else.
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Simplified new trip rig (I hate abbreviations, so I will go to great lengths not to use them).
If show up to work, from your first report until you're released from duty to go home, you collect. If you are Home Reserve, in training, sick or days off you do not collect rig. Lines can not be built with less than 5 days off between trips. |
Just got offered Oct 24th 747-400 class. Gladly accepted. Interviewed Aug 23rd.
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Originally Posted by VF32TomCat
(Post 1052738)
traing pay is $1200 per month.
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Originally Posted by atpben
(Post 1054176)
Just got offered Oct 24th 747-400 class. Gladly accepted. Interviewed Aug 23rd.
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Thanks, I'm very excited
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If you do not collect rig while on home reserve then how are your paid?
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Originally Posted by JimmyJr3
(Post 1054533)
If you do not collect rig while on home reserve then how are your paid?
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Which is what?,...obv showing my ignorance here. Apologies
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Originally Posted by ultradrvr
(Post 1053973)
Anybody have any details on the sept 19th 76 class? Got the drug test Fed Ex pack with the conditional employment letter but nothing else.
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Originally Posted by JimmyJr3
(Post 1054559)
Which is what?,...obv showing my ignorance here. Apologies
62 hours is guarantee. First year is 50 hours. |
Called for an Oct. 10th, B-767 class. Gratefully accepted. Interviewed 2/15
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