sweet, thanks!

yes, rev 5.1..

Edit: With in two hours of emailing HR that I took the test, I was called in for interview! Yeah! Nothing can ruin my day today now!

Failop great job! Hit me up at [email protected], I have some info to pass.

Ok, I have to ask. I know it has been referenced on previous pages - the new contract is not final yet is it? Are there still viable rumors that it will see completion in the very near future? I have also seen a few different takes on the proposed salary increases; any reliable information in that respect? Any proposed mods to current work rules/policies worth mentioning? Thanks to all who contribute to this very informative thread. Cheers.

B747

12 year Captain $201 per hour
12 year FO/FE $140.70

B767

12 year Captain $168.72
12 year FO $118.10

Above are DOS (Date of Signing) pay rates...

Thanks 744....Accurate to assume that the 14% raise applies to every year on the ladder? Any proposed minimum hour increases (both 1st year and following years)? Fly safe!

I think what you are asking...

First year FO at $75 per hour and a 50-hour monthly guaranty. Starting second year (on any airplane type) is a 62-hour guaranty.

And the yearly pay adjustment is two-fold...your yearly anniversary gets you a pay increase, and the contract's DOS anniversary gets you a pay increase. Those of us that have been here for more than 12 years only get the DOS anniversary increase.

First year pay comes to $45,000 on either airplanes. Second year pay on the B767 comes to $59,430.72. These numbers are minimum guaranty amounts. It does not include any Trip Rig, profit sharing, etc.

Hope that helps...
Good luck.

Second year pay gets about a 9.5% raise, year 3 is about 10.5%. Guarantee stays the same, however the trip rig will kick in after 13 days. Lines will no longer be filled in with reserve days to bring it up to 17 days, if your awarded line is only 14 days, you're only on the hook for 14 days. That being said, we can be extended 3 extra days beyond our line. We lost any say (except fatigue) on having the duty day extended up to 2 hours. MinRest periods are bumped up an hour for each fraction on an hour you are extended.

Being uneducated in the lingo.....does that mean that the current 17 day a month obligation is relaxing a bit Twin Wasp? Also, the above yearly salary numbers above do not include per diem, correct 744? From what I have gathered over the last several months of this thread is that one can expect to take home ~$400 or so of the per diem monthly-true? Great info all-thank you for your time.

Presently we owe the company 17 days a month. That aren't that many 17 day lines in the bid package. I try to do all my work in one 17 day chunk and I mark the bid to tell scheduling that. What happens now is scheduling adds R days to a 12 or 14 day line to bring it up to 17. I got a 14 day line for Sept. The company added three R days at the beginning of the line. (Don't get me started on how stupid I think that is. If the company uses me then I lose out on what little control I had on my bid till chaos theory kicks in. And now they have to cover my awarded line with other reserve folks.) So back to your question, yes the hard 17 day seems to be relaxing. They are going to call your awarded days your "footprint" and everything is supposed to happen in those days.

There are going to be 4 guaranteed days off a year that you can use to say "Don't extend me this month." And there are going to be some reserve lines and hybrid hard/reserve lines that I haven't read through yet and I can't say what happens with them.

Per Diem is 2.40 an hour from first report time at your base till you're released at your base. I'm getting 700-800 a month, how much you bring home is a matter of where you layover and how much you drink.

Nice summary, Twin Wasp.

I had forgotten about the 4 days per year (!!) that they can f*&k with me...yeah, we got'em over a barrel now, NOT!!

The mastery score on these computer based testing programs is the minimum score you need to show "mastery" of the subject (ie. Min. passing score). It is not what the test taker has scored on the test.

how many questions did people full on guess on the online test? i had no idea on about 5 questions and guessed.... still passed though

I guessed on about 5-8 of them, mostly the weather ones relating to pressure systems and the jet stream which I seem to have gotten about 3 on.. and also a couple of educated guesses on a couple of others..

BTW, does anyone know how we can see which ones we missed? I am told to be prepared to discuss the ones you missed, but I don't know which ones those were?

thanks

on the old test , when you finish they give you the score and the questions that you answer wrong, with your answer and the right one.

Per Diem for R-2 in base?
 

Don't quote me on this, but the way I read the new contract, we no longer get per-diem when we are sitting R-2 in base. I could be completely wrong but the way I read the following, they specifically differentiate between in base and out of base reserve and associated per diem. Anyone read it differently?

<<If the designated location for R-2 status is the Crewmember’s Base, lodging will be provided. The Company will provide lodging and per diem at locations other than the Crewmember’s Base.>>

Incorrect.

Oddly enough, in the Gateway section has Per Diem in base....

And under expenses it says you'll get per diem "from the beginning of your assignment at your Permanent Base..." If you're assigned R2 sounds like you're covered.

That was a great explanation of the trip rig-thanks Twin Wasp. Sounds like there are some real positives to the new contract. Thanks again for getting me up to speed 744 & TW.

Anyone from the Aug 23rd interview class hear anything

Nothing yet.

Nothing here

Jumping out of the pool and heading to class on Oct 3rd for the 400. Got the call earlier today.

congrats!!!!

Congratulations and welcome aboard. Awesome place and an excellent time to be here.

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let me grab you a towel.... grats!

Ok, so I'm studying for the interview in Miami and I have one question from the test I'm confused on. I'm not really sure on the answer so I thought I'd see what you guys can come up with? Sorry I don't have the answer choices that were provided.

What is the max V1 reduction you can take on a contaminated runway?

you can never reduce V1 below Vmcg... (think about if you did).

A really ugly day if the critical one took a day off?

Oct class date. Had to defer for a later date due to baby girl coming in November! Family first! Interviewed in Aug. Congrats to all!

You cannot safely take-off below Vmcg or Vmca with a failure of the critical engine. The crew can, though, retard the throttles and safely reject the takeoff, even if refusal speed is below Vmcg. If there is a gap between V1 and rotate and the takeoff is continued, and Vmcg is less than rotate, and Vmca is less than Vlo (liftoff speed), then you're in trouble :)

As for the test question, I was confused on the answer as well...something like a max 10 knots reduction. Not something I've ever seen or heard of before; we had a short discussion during the interview but I can't remember the company answer...just ask a lot of questions in the tech portion and the time will fly by.

Good Luck!

It was a while ago, but IIRC, the answer on the test was 10 knots. While trying to find the answer on the interwbz later on I stumbled across another mssg board where a pilot from an operator that flies both 74s and 76's (not Atlas) stated that his company uses a max reduction of 10kts on the 74 and 6kts on the 76. And of course, it can never be less than Vmcg+1kt.

I believe a pilot from another operator stated that they use more than 10kts sometimes, but of course, never less than Vmcg+1.

well, looks like I got that one wrong then... I always thought V1 can never be lower than Vmcg and Vr never lower than Vmca was all I needed to know. I didn't get any indication of which I got correct and which I got wrong, at least not that I was able to find. I looked all over, and haven't been able to find a definitive number for max reduction though.. Vmcg made sense for me since on the 747 the lowest usable V1 we have is 123KIAS, which also happens to be Vmcg.. oh well.. live and learn.

Don't know where it comes from, Boeing?, but for Atlas, the max reduction for wet or cantaminated runway is 10 kts.

Thanks guys! I learned something also...

Cheers

This new fangled math is hard for me, and stuff.

Does anyone know if there is a reapplication wait time after an unsuccessful interview? I got a "thanks, but no thanks" letter.

One year...

Has Kasher published his opinion yet? Given the level of detail of some new aspects of the TA, it seems he has, however I haven't come across a post or a thread stating such.

CaptainMe... how long after you interviewed did you get the letter?