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I just got that letter today. I interviewed on the 14th. Letter said on pref hiring list but no class date available. It scared me but I assume that is the pool!!
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nice skyjack, congrats!
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Atlas Air
Congrats to all those who got the "pool" letter. Yahoo!!! Got the Atlas Air letter today - swimming in the pool as well.
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CANNONBALL!!! <splash>:D
Got my letter too. |
Long time listener, first time poster. Got the pool letter today--13 Sep interview. Thanks very much to all who contributed throughout this thread!! The info was priceless. May we all have a short swim!
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Pool letter today! Awesome....
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I wonder if its mostly pool letters because of no classes scheduled for Nov. Does anyone know if they started scheduling Nov classes yet? I have heard multiple classes for Oct. But I assume they are pretty much full. Anyone know anything? Thanks and congrats to everyone with the pool letter as well.
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Pool letter for me today. interviewed on the 15th....
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Congratulations all and welcome aboard! You are going to like it here. See you at the St. Michael hotel in Hahn.
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Absolutely Fantastic post Luv2avi8! Thanks for all that info. Good luck to you!
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Whew....just wen't through the whole thread...looks like a goldmine of info and has confirmed my interest in the company. I'm a USAF KC-135 guy with 3,300 ish TT, 2,200 PIC with a good amount of overwater/international time. A few questions:
1. My ADSC isn't up until next summer but there are opportunities for leaving earlier (RIF, Palace Chase). Talking with a friend at the company, I'm planning on putting an app in this week ut I'm wondering what to expect. Will an availability date that far out immediately put my app at the bottom of the stack or is it possible to interview and be hired with an understanding that a class date will follow shortly after becoming available? Any of the mil guys been down this road? 2. I've heard a lot about this online test. Now 100 questions with 60 minutes to finish correct? Looks like lots of questions from 'Ace the Technical Pilot Interview' which looks like a pretty hit and miss source for info. Lots of MNPS/NAT stuff too. Am I good looking at AP and 11-202, or are there better sources out there? Assume having the 'Aircrew Quick Reference Guide to TAF/METAR Codes' handy helps too? How are folks doing on the new test?....not a lot of time to reference your answers it seems. 3. ACMI vs Charter? I'm assuming it comes down to who pays for the fuel correct? 4. Are most new-hires going into the 76 now or is it pretty evenly split with the 74? Anything on your record or in the hiring process that will push you towards one airframe or another or is it simply based on the company's needs at the time? Not that I'd make a decision to join the company based on airframe but I am curious. 5. For the Guard/Reserve guys - how do you guys handle your civ/mil balance. I'm just learning about such things and need some educating. 17 day trip at Atlas followed by a couple days logging beans at the unit during your days off or do you just do the mil leave thing when your unit needs you? How do drill weekends work? Do you try to work your bids to be available to your unit or do things just work themselves out? Thanks for the info and to all who have posted here. Tanker |
Pool letter also! Interviewed Sept 14th
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Can anyone who's taken the new 100 ? online test give any insight on the extra ?'s that are now a part of the expanded test? Is it even possible to finish the new test? It was intimidating at 50 ?'s.
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Looks like I'll be diving in for a bit of a swim. Sure hope its a short swim.
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Originally Posted by Tanker-driver
(Post 1063547)
Whew....just wen't through the whole thread...looks like a goldmine of info and has confirmed my interest in the company. I'm a USAF KC-135 guy with 3,300 ish TT, 2,200 PIC with a good amount of overwater/international time. A few questions:
1. My ADSC isn't up until next summer but there are opportunities for leaving earlier (RIF, Palace Chase). Talking with a friend at the company, I'm planning on putting an app in this week ut I'm wondering what to expect. Will an availability date that far out immediately put my app at the bottom of the stack or is it possible to interview and be hired with an understanding that a class date will follow shortly after becoming available? Any of the mil guys been down this road? 1. Don't know this answer 2. I've heard a lot about this online test. Now 100 questions with 60 minutes to finish correct? Looks like lots of questions from 'Ace the Technical Pilot Interview' which looks like a pretty hit and miss source for info. Lots of MNPS/NAT stuff too. Am I good looking at AP and 11-202, or are there better sources out there? Assume having the 'Aircrew Quick Reference Guide to TAF/METAR Codes' handy helps too? How are folks doing on the new test?....not a lot of time to reference your answers it seems. yes all good stuff...earlier in the thread someone posted 33 of the 50 earlier interviewee test... not sure about the new one but same type...plus it is a crew airplane if you have some knowledgeable folks sitting around on an RON 3. ACMI vs Charter? I'm assuming it comes down to who pays for the fuel correct? still fairly new and this sounds correct 4. Are most new-hires going into the 76 now or is it pretty evenly split with the 74? Anything on your record or in the hiring process that will push you towards one airframe or another or is it simply based on the company's needs at the time? Not that I'd make a decision to join the company based on airframe but I am curious. Not sure 5. For the Guard/Reserve guys - how do you guys handle your civ/mil balance. I'm just learning about such things and need some educating. 17 day trip at Atlas followed by a couple days logging beans at the unit during your days off or do you just do the mil leave thing when your unit needs you? How do drill weekends work? Do you try to work your bids to be available to your unit or do things just work themselves out? Thanks for the info and to all who have posted here. Tanker 5.u don't have to do all 17 in a row if you don't wish to...depending on the drill and requirements remaining i may or may not get a drill excusal otherwise i'll have my schedulers get those days as mil days which come from your off days for the month. pretty much i bid the days off i want then back fill my off days with additional guard days/drills. Good luck!! |
Anyone know if they are scheduling classes in Nov and Dec?
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Originally Posted by Skyjack
(Post 1063866)
Anyone know if they are scheduling classes in Nov and Dec?
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Do they already have guys lined up and called for Nov and Dec classes?
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Originally Posted by chip1
(Post 1064141)
Do they already have guys lined up and called for Nov and Dec classes?
YMMV |
Originally Posted by Tanker-driver
(Post 1063547)
4. Are most new-hires going into the 76 now or is it pretty evenly split with the 74? Anything on your record or in the hiring process that will push you towards one airframe or another or is it simply based on the company's needs at the time? Not that I'd make a decision to join the company based on airframe but I am curious. Tanker Other than some 742 fo's who have been awarded a transition/upgrade bid (and a couple of junior 74 captains), most all of the 76 captain upgrades are coming from the 744 right seat. In addition, there will be an increase in the number of 744 airframes to man. Consequently, there will be hiring into the right seat of the 744 (and the 76) for the forseeable future. The hiring process is basically impossible to decipher, but there is a better than even chance that if you are qualified in either the 74 or the 76, you will find yourself in class for that equipment. 8 |
OK - I have what might be too obvious of a question. I'm looking at the Atlas Pre-Application Questionaire.
In the experience block, it asks for: "Turbine (turboprop+jet) time" and "Turbine (turboprop+jet) PIC time" Then, further down in the 'Simulator Requirements' section it asks: "Do you have at least 2500 hours actual flight time as either PIC or SIC in a turbojet aircraft with a takeoff gross weight of 12,500 pounds or greater?" and "Have you served as either PIC or SIC on at least two turboject airplanes with a takeoff gross weight of 12,500 pounds or greater?" And again in 'Operating Experience' "Do you have more than 1500 hours flight time as either PIC or SIC in turbojet powered airplanes?" So, being a career C-130 guy, my dumb question is are they looking for pure jet time in the 'simulator' and 'operating' questions, or can I count my C-130 turboprop experience? It just seems odd the various ways they ask the same questions... |
Hey Guys,
Obligatory "Thanks for all of the additional resources/prep/company information" statement. I thought I had a handle on all of my research until I gleaned all the little details and links from these 200+ pages. Bringing it back to the new 100 question test - double the fun in the same amount of time, I get it. What I would like to know is if you can go back and forth between questions. Someone had written way back in the thread that once you clicked an answer, there was no changing your response. To anyone who has taken the test recently, I would appreciate you input. Fly safe. |
Originally Posted by rightseatsue
(Post 1064537)
Hey Guys,
Obligatory "Thanks for all of the additional resources/prep/company information" statement. I thought I had a handle on all of my research until I gleaned all the little details and links from these 200+ pages. Bringing it back to the new 100 question test - double the fun in the same amount of time, I get it. What I would like to know is if you can go back and forth between questions. Someone had written way back in the thread that once you clicked an answer, there was no changing your response. To anyone who has taken the test recently, I would appreciate you input. Fly safe. |
LowSlowT2,
Applications will either say turbine, turboprop, or turbojet. Do not interchange them. Turbine is both turboprop and turbojet. C130 is only turboprop and turbine. |
Originally Posted by LowSlowT2
(Post 1064281)
OK - I have what might be too obvious of a question. I'm looking at the Atlas Pre-Application Questionaire.
In the experience block, it asks for: "Turbine (turboprop+jet) time" and "Turbine (turboprop+jet) PIC time" Then, further down in the 'Simulator Requirements' section it asks: "Do you have at least 2500 hours actual flight time as either PIC or SIC in a turbojet aircraft with a takeoff gross weight of 12,500 pounds or greater?" and "Have you served as either PIC or SIC on at least two turboject airplanes with a takeoff gross weight of 12,500 pounds or greater?" And again in 'Operating Experience' "Do you have more than 1500 hours flight time as either PIC or SIC in turbojet powered airplanes?" So, being a career C-130 guy, my dumb question is are they looking for pure jet time in the 'simulator' and 'operating' questions, or can I count my C-130 turboprop experience? It just seems odd the various ways they ask the same questions... Applications will either say turbine, turboprop, or turbojet. Do not interchange them. Turbine is both turboprop and turbojet. C130 is only turboprop and turbine. |
Originally Posted by urge
(Post 1064635)
LowSlowT2,
Applications will either say turbine, turboprop, or turbojet. Do not interchange them. Turbine is both turboprop and turbojet. C130 is only turboprop and turbine. |
Yes, you can go back and change previously answered questions on the 100 question test. You can skip and tag as well.
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Originally Posted by LowSlowT2
(Post 1064685)
Well, Atlas' PAQ asks all three - I just want to make sure they're not interchanging them...
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I believe the first question is looking for turbine (t-prop + t-jet) command time for captain experience, for the company's interest.
The other question referencing turbojet-greater-than-12500 lbs speaks to the requirements for getting a initial turbojet type rating in a level "C" simulator. Atlas has hired t-prop-only pilots, but got them SIC-only B744 types, and then had to deal with pairing requirements, as they could only occupy the right seat. When they acquire "X" hours in type on the line, that allowed them to then go in for the full type rating and release to normal scheduling. (a practice from tough-to-find-qualified-pilots periods e.g. "when everybody's hiring"). I believe with a level "D" simulator all of this is unnecessary. I may be wrong. |
They are not interchanging them. Some of the questions are to find out if you qualify for a PIC type rating immediately, which is what they want to do on the -400....not sure about the 767 situation.
cliff MEL |
OK - I didn't think they were interchanging them, but wanted to be sure. I have virtually zero experience filling out applications and didn't understand the nuances of simulator stuff and other things 'foreign' to me.
Thanks for all the great explanations!! |
Don't sweat it...I was hired w/just C-130 t-prop time, got a PIC type in the 744 and had no problems w/pairing, sim stuff, etc.
Good luck! |
Anyone hear anything about new classes being scheduled?
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Originally Posted by 727gm
(Post 1064965)
I believe the first question is looking for turbine (t-prop + t-jet) command time for captain experience, for the company's interest.
The other question referencing turbojet-greater-than-12500 lbs speaks to the requirements for getting a initial turbojet type rating in a level "C" simulator. Atlas has hired t-prop-only pilots, but got them SIC-only B744 types, and then had to deal with pairing requirements, as they could only occupy the right seat. When they acquire "X" hours in type on the line, that allowed them to then go in for the full type rating and release to normal scheduling. (a practice from tough-to-find-qualified-pilots periods e.g. "when everybody's hiring"). I believe with a level "D" simulator all of this is unnecessary. I may be wrong. |
Revised by poster
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I just found out from a 767 guy working on the program ramp-up / ETOPS certification that the feds are requiring the First Officers hired into the 767 to have previous 767 experience since it is a brand new program for Atlas with many Captains that have not flown that airplane before.
This is good news for 767 guys looking for a job. All other will be hired into the 747. |
Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
(Post 1065528)
I just found out from a 767 guy working on the program ramp-up / ETOPS certification that the feds are requiring the First Officers hired into the 767 to have previous 767 experience since it is a brand new program for Atlas with many Captains that have not flown that airplane before.
This is good news for 767 guys looking for a job. All other will be hired into the 747. |
Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
(Post 1065528)
I just found out from a 767 guy working on the program ramp-up / ETOPS certification that the feds are requiring the First Officers hired into the 767 to have previous 767 experience since it is a brand new program for Atlas with many Captains that have not flown that airplane before.
This is good news for 767 guys looking for a job. All other will be hired into the 747. That was just for the initial class of 12 newbies. cheers, cargo |
Does anyone know or have an educated guess on how which airframe guys in the pool are called for classes works? Is this decision made during interviewER deliberations? For example, "we like this guy but think he'd be a better fit for the 74 or 76"...(appropriate annotation made next to his/her name as hiring paperwork is pushed forward through the process)?
I guess my question is - Is there theoretically 1 pool (one pool based purely on the needs of the company at that time) or 2 (a 76 candidate pool and a 74 candidate pool)? Basically, is where you are going kind of already predetermined once in the pool (or your respective pool if there are 2) or is it totally a crapshoot? |
CAPTAINV it's about time you join us. Only one more person left in the pool from our interview day. I'll see you in Miami next month, I got my PT on the 14th. Cargowannabe, have the grill ready, lets not forget the adult beverages either.
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