Rhino12

Head on a swivel...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGIjISeW8QM&sns=em

JonnyKnoxville

I agree with your point...Our actions or inactions always make a strong statement to the company about the enforcement of our CBA. However, we are not in formal negotiations right now or in other words, we are not currently in this process:

http://www.nmb.gov/publicinfo/collbarg2.pdf

Or this process YET:

http://images.search.yahoo.com/image...k&fr=yfp-t-900

Talon1011

Don't take the recent posting trends as an indication that things have gone bad at Atlas. Far from it. This is a very agreeable place to hang your hat provided you know and accept the ACMI lifestyle. That doesn't mean that we don't have the same ongoing battle that any other pilot group has in making certain the company follows the contract. I can honestly say that whenever I have been in that position here and could quote book, chapter and verse from the contract to whomever in the company I was speaking with I've never had a problem. I'd expect to have to do the same thing no matter where I was flying and it doesn't take away from my enjoyment of this job at all.

744driver

Good points, Talon...this recent turn on the thread is a good thing. It is not a bad thing to go into a new venture with your eyes wide open.

Good luck to those that are still trying to get a call...interview...class date.

danam404

Any new rumors on class dates?

NightIP

I agree. Huge difference from Brand X, where we were hurling grievances at the company constantly to see which ones would stick. I'd come home after every trip fantasizing about quitting.

Lo and behold, now I'm at Atlas doing much of the same flying in the same equipment, and I really enjoy my job. Go figure.

(Not to say there aren't issues that need to be addressed.)

worldfr8dog

I am in the process of confirming so not quite official but it sounds like a call(s) was made from HDQ to see if this person was available for an interview in late Oct, or it could have been a class, it is unclear at this time which. It is odd, however, as this was a call to check availability vs a solid invite. I am checking the source for more information so hopefully I will have an accurate update soon.

DC8 Driver

Excellent post. Every time we go around the CBA and set a precedent, we are letting them gain ground and giving them ammunition that can and will be used against us.

Some crews will fly over their contractual duty day after experiencing delays because they don't want to layover in a crap hole; so, they'll fly well over their contractual limits to continue on to a better layover spot. Guys will let the company deadhead them over 20 hours; and, or, put them on a coach ticket domestic over 16 hours. Guys will answer the phone on their off days going into reserve and accept schedule changes when they aren't required to do so. Inside of the 30 hour requirement...and the list goes on and on.... We just had guys volunteer to fly on their days off for free to go to a football game! You can't make this stuff up.

When guys circumnavigate the CBA, sometimes to their personal gain, they're hurting their fellow crews and giving up ground to the company; so, yes, we are ALWAYS in negotiations.

bigmacdaddy

This is not meant as a jab, so seriously...are there many folks at Atlas who have left a legacy or major? And if by furlough, have made the choice to permanently bypass the recall? There are some real qualities of Atlas that would warrant such a decision. Thanks, and thanks as well for the honest assessment of the CBA. You all still are able to talk and educate without the nauseating poo throwing that is so common in other companies threads!

recce hellcat

greetings;
not to 'hijack' this thread, but since this is the first monday of the month, did a new hire class start today?
(i mean, that is the title of this thread, right?)

fly safe and NEVER fatigued......