Atlas Air Hiring
11-17-2013, 08:08 AM
#7161
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Heavies
Posts: 1,414
Current Rates:
Here are the B-767 rates:
B-767
Captain
174
169
164
159
154
150
146
141
137
133
129
126
B-767
First Officer
122
118
115
111
108
105
100
95
91
86
81
77
Here are the B-767 rates:
B-767
Captain
174
169
164
159
154
150
146
141
137
133
129
126
B-767
First Officer
122
118
115
111
108
105
100
95
91
86
81
77
11-17-2013, 10:10 AM
#7163
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Joined APC: May 2010
Position: B767 CA
Posts: 1,100
Or one can actually go to something called a CBA to find them...
Sorry, once again, to be a little harsh here...but if Atlas pilots are not using the tools that are right in front of them, we are doomed...I get that we might sometimes want to spark a conversation on this thread...but wow!!
What are the tools, you ask?...Company website, Union website, or at the very least write to a Steward, or the ExCo...they'll be glad to point you all in the right direction.
Rant over, you are now cleared to the previously scheduled programming....err, thread.
Sorry, once again, to be a little harsh here...but if Atlas pilots are not using the tools that are right in front of them, we are doomed...I get that we might sometimes want to spark a conversation on this thread...but wow!!
What are the tools, you ask?...Company website, Union website, or at the very least write to a Steward, or the ExCo...they'll be glad to point you all in the right direction.
Rant over, you are now cleared to the previously scheduled programming....err, thread.
11-17-2013, 02:32 PM
#7165
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 249
Maybe you see something different but the spirit rates are 40 less year one and 15 less on year 12 for FO's vs Atlas 767 rates. Per diem is less as well. They both do have a higher guarantee. No clue on duty rigs at either of those places.
11-17-2013, 02:55 PM
#7167
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Ex USAF, ex-ATA , currently Atlas Air 747 CA
Posts: 324
I'd venture to say that if one is focused on the single issue of pay then most likely you'll be miserable unless you were working for whomever is currently at the top of the heap. ....and the top of the heap changes places regularly. If you add quality of life and enjoyment of the type of flying being done then it's more likely that the result will be better. Granted, those things are different for different people. What I consider great quality of life and thoroughly enjoyable flying may be an anathema to the next fellow. Atlas is a perfect fit for me. It may or may not be for you. It's extremely important to sort that out early on in the game.
11-17-2013, 03:06 PM
#7168
Tuk er jerbs!
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: B747 Left
Posts: 1,342
Originally Posted by thesandbox
conversation spark.....
yep....767 rates just about the same as JetBlue and Spirit A320 rates with 10 hours less guarantee and more days per month.
yep....767 rates just about the same as JetBlue and Spirit A320 rates with 10 hours less guarantee and more days per month.
I know...we knew it going in, but...
Originally Posted by Talon1011
I'd venture to say that if one is focused on the single issue of pay then most likely you'll be miserable unless you were working for whomever is currently at the top of the heap. ....and the top of the heap changes places regularly. If you add quality of life and enjoyment of the type of flying being done then it's more likely that the result will be better. Granted, those things are different for different people. What I consider great quality of life and thoroughly enjoyable flying may be an anathema to the next fellow. Atlas is a perfect fit for me. It may or may not be for you. It's extremely important to sort that out early on in the game.
11-17-2013, 05:07 PM
#7169
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: 747
Posts: 1,290
Originally Posted by NightIP
Absolutely, and like we've talked about, the seniority issue is a big concern. I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel a bit raw about constant hiring on the 747 while we're stuck at lower pay rate, simply because we had previous 767 experience.
I know...we knew it going in, but...
I know...we knew it going in, but...
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11-17-2013, 05:55 PM
#7170
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 199
Kind of...there must be seats avail on the 74. We can't displace a junior guy on the 'senior' equipment - that's my interpretation of the CBA (Ref for 74 Driver!)
The pay at the other airlines listed may be comparable...but I've never commuted to work without a revenue ticket in hand.
The pay at the other airlines listed may be comparable...but I've never commuted to work without a revenue ticket in hand.
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