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Paok 07-05-2014 12:02 PM



Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 1677846)
Coming in and flying the 737 as an FO would mean that we'd start attracting guys who would be starting at a regional but decide to get some 737 time instead. Just an opinion... They won't be able to get any new types on property if they keep losing us faster than they can train us which is what has happened so far this year.

Yep, and it makes me wonder about second-year 737 pay. First year pay for all equipment is currently $77.27/hr across the board, but doing the math, second year 737 pay would be... $73.68/hr?

Someone didn't think that one through. :D

Ah well, enough rumor-mongering. When are we getting the 787s again?
I actually got a pay raise going from Atlas second year pay 767 to a legacy on a 737 at first year pay due to min guarantee being almost 20 hours more a month. Made the choice to go easy...and an immediate pay raise

NightIP 07-05-2014 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Paok (Post 1678092)
I actually got a pay raise going from Atlas second year pay 767 to a legacy on a 737 at first year pay due to min guarantee being almost 20 hours more a month. Made the choice to go easy...and an immediate pay raise

No doubt, and congrats to you for getting the call.

kme9418 07-06-2014 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Paok (Post 1678092)
I actually got a pay raise going from Atlas second year pay 767 to a legacy on a 737 at first year pay due to min guarantee being almost 20 hours more a month. Made the choice to go easy...and an immediate pay raise

Not just base pay but 401k is night and day...great move and congrats again.

HercDriver130 07-06-2014 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by captainv (Post 1678059)
They've said to our faces they are totally unconcerned with attrition. Time will tell.

Its not just Atlas,,,, K4 is 1/4 the number of pilots.. and we have lost about 12 due to attrition or retirement in the first 6 months of the year.... for the first time in nearly 2 years the company is actually talking about hiring......i think companies like this LIKE the turnover... means a certain percentage of the pilot group is on 1st or 2nd year pay...

CandlerKid 07-06-2014 12:55 PM

Atlas is almost losing that many certain months alone. I think I heard the average has been 6 a month for the last 12 months though. Lots in the pool for other places.

DC8 Driver 07-06-2014 01:15 PM

Congrats Poak!

S1tpilot 07-06-2014 01:57 PM

Good job Poak. I'm third year pay at Atlas and still make less than I did at a Regional and have less days off. Had another FO on the 74 tell me it wasn't till his fourth year at Atlas that he made more than the regional he left.

chip1 07-06-2014 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by S1tpilot (Post 1678705)
Good job Poak. I'm third year pay at Atlas and still make less than I did at a Regional and have less days off. Had another FO on the 74 tell me it wasn't till his fourth year at Atlas that he made more than the regional he left.

This has been my experience so far as well. Having more fun at Atlas though…for whatever thats worth.

BGD011 07-09-2014 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by S1tpilot (Post 1678705)
Good job Poak. I'm third year pay at Atlas and still make less than I did at a Regional and have less days off. Had another FO on the 74 tell me it wasn't till his fourth year at Atlas that he made more than the regional he left.

S1tpilot and chip1,

Were you guys regional FOs or CAs?
Thx.

chip1 07-09-2014 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by BGD011 (Post 1680372)
S1tpilot and chip1,

Were you guys regional FOs or CAs?
Thx.

Captain……….


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