Atlas applicant pool exhausted
02-16-2017, 06:34 AM
#51
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Yes the DC-8-73 is long, lanky and looks HOT.....
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Your FIGHT is the the GOOD FIGHT. Thinking about you guys.
02-16-2017, 07:48 AM
#52
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Posts: 83
Originally Posted by Aryan
What percentage of Atlas pilots would you estimate are actively looking to leave based on the above?
The latest letter from the ivory tower just encouraged everyone even more to leave. No one believes the words on paper, we all see the actions of our company.
Not only is it a bad place to work with a terrible contract but getting more dangerous by the month as the experience levels drop drastically.
02-16-2017, 09:10 AM
#53
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Posts: 85
Originally Posted by captainv
As of Jan. 1, we had 1,457 pilots on the seniority list. Multiple sources (company and union) confirm that @ 120 pilots are in the pipeline for UPS and will be leaving Atlas this year. That's 8% of the total pilot group leaving JUST for UPS.
02-17-2017, 05:01 AM
#54
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Originally Posted by Aryan
And starting day 366 at UPS, they will be making more than anyone at Atlas.
Start factoring in benefits, retirement A/B fund and who knows off the charts.
02-17-2017, 05:22 AM
#55
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Originally Posted by Stratocruzr
Day 366 at UPS = 7 year 747 capt Atlas (just based off hourly rate)
Start factoring in benefits, retirement A/B fund and who knows off the charts.
Start factoring in benefits, retirement A/B fund and who knows off the charts.
(2 - year pay @ ups = 7 year pay @ atlas)
Average flight times? Using min guarantee, which I think is the only apples to apples comparison, the numbers I'm getting are vastly different.
I guess it's irrelevant and I truly feel sorry about the bs atlas/polar pilots are dealing with. Today it's you tomorrow it could be us. I hope there's a good resolution to your nightmare, and the sooner the better.
02-17-2017, 06:09 AM
#56
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Position: 757/767
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Originally Posted by whalesurfer
Out of curiosity, how did you come to this conclusion?
(2 - year pay @ ups = 7 year pay @ atlas)
Average flight times? Using min guarantee, which I think is the only apples to apples comparison, the numbers I'm getting are vastly different.
I guess it's irrelevant and I truly feel sorry about the bs atlas/polar pilots are dealing with. Today it's you tomorrow it could be us. I hope there's a good resolution to your nightmare, and the sooner the better.
(2 - year pay @ ups = 7 year pay @ atlas)
Average flight times? Using min guarantee, which I think is the only apples to apples comparison, the numbers I'm getting are vastly different.
I guess it's irrelevant and I truly feel sorry about the bs atlas/polar pilots are dealing with. Today it's you tomorrow it could be us. I hope there's a good resolution to your nightmare, and the sooner the better.
ups 171 × 81 × 12 = 167k 2nd yr FO
Atlas 184 × 62 × 12 = 137 7th yr capt
I think that's how he came up with it
02-17-2017, 12:04 PM
#57
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Originally Posted by brownie
From APC site
ups 171 × 81 × 12 = 167k 2nd yr FO
Atlas 184 × 62 × 12 = 137 7th yr capt
I think that's how he came up with it
ups 171 × 81 × 12 = 167k 2nd yr FO
Atlas 184 × 62 × 12 = 137 7th yr capt
I think that's how he came up with it
213 x 62 x 12 = $158k
UPS 2 year ANY Equipment First Officer (Guarantee only)*
171 x 81 x 12 = $166k
*Minimum Guarantee is simply one metric of comparison with UPS pilots. Their compensation package beats the Atlas compensation package in every single metric of measurement that one could imagine. There really is no comparison.
02-17-2017, 05:05 PM
#58
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: UPS 767 Gear & Flap Operator
Posts: 271
Here's the 767 pay: Atlas 12 year (Max) 767 Captain (Guarantee only)
179 x 62 x 12 = $133k
179 x 62 x 12 = $133k
Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
Atlas 12 year (Max) 747 Captain (Guarantee only)*
213 x 62 x 12 = $158k
UPS 2 year ANY Equipment First Officer (Guarantee only)*
171 x 81 x 12 = $166k
*Minimum Guarantee is simply one metric of comparison with UPS pilots. Their compensation package beats the Atlas compensation package in every single metric of measurement that one could imagine. There really is no comparison.
213 x 62 x 12 = $158k
UPS 2 year ANY Equipment First Officer (Guarantee only)*
171 x 81 x 12 = $166k
*Minimum Guarantee is simply one metric of comparison with UPS pilots. Their compensation package beats the Atlas compensation package in every single metric of measurement that one could imagine. There really is no comparison.
02-18-2017, 09:54 AM
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Position: 747
Posts: 1,290
Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets
Sorry 8, had to step in and correct ya
Your FIGHT is the the GOOD FIGHT. Thinking about you guys.
Your FIGHT is the the GOOD FIGHT. Thinking about you guys.
It seems that the longer we're in this industry the more we realize that we are all in this thing together regardless of where the checks come from.
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