Is new law "ATP" or just 1500 hours?
11-15-2010 | 05:30 PM
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Is new law "ATP" or just 1500 hours?
Hi all,
I just have a question regarding the new law to be hired as an airline pilot. Do you have to have all the requirements of an atp, ex: xc time, instrument time, age, etc? Because I might get 1500 hours before I am 23 and I was just wondering if I would have to wait until I am 23 so I can actually have an ATP?
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I just have a question regarding the new law to be hired as an airline pilot. Do you have to have all the requirements of an atp, ex: xc time, instrument time, age, etc? Because I might get 1500 hours before I am 23 and I was just wondering if I would have to wait until I am 23 so I can actually have an ATP?
Thanks!
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11-15-2010 | 06:20 PM
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Hi all,
I just have a question regarding the new law to be hired as an airline pilot. Do you have to have all the requirements of an atp, ex: xc time, instrument time, age, etc? Because I might get 1500 hours before I am 23 and I was just wondering if I would have to wait until I am 23 so I can actually have an ATP?
Thanks!
flyhigh423
I just have a question regarding the new law to be hired as an airline pilot. Do you have to have all the requirements of an atp, ex: xc time, instrument time, age, etc? Because I might get 1500 hours before I am 23 and I was just wondering if I would have to wait until I am 23 so I can actually have an ATP?
Thanks!
flyhigh423
From the actual bill
(B) ALL FLIGHT CREWMEMBERS- Rules issued under paragraph (1) shall ensure that, after the date that is 3 years after the date of enactment of this Act, all flight crewmembers--
(i) have obtained an airline transport pilot certificate under part 61 of title 14, Code of Federal Regulations; and
(ii) have appropriate multi-engine aircraft flight experience, as determined by the Administrator.
(i) have obtained an airline transport pilot certificate under part 61 of title 14, Code of Federal Regulations; and
(ii) have appropriate multi-engine aircraft flight experience, as determined by the Administrator.
11-16-2010 | 06:45 AM
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Kudos for getting your hours early, but yes you have to wait. Other professions with a similar level of safety responsibility have a either a hard age requirement (law enforcement often requires age 23) or a de-facto requirement, due to the length of college/training involved (medicine, military, etc).
11-16-2010 | 12:06 PM
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Some airlines (mostly freight) still have professional flight engineers. My understanding is that they do have a commercial pilots certificate also. Will this rule also apply to someone who is to be hired strictly as a flight engineer?
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11-16-2010 | 02:34 PM
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That came up as we have some PFEs. They're more likely to have an A&P than a COMM. That's the definition of a Professional Flight Engineer, they don't have a pilot certificate and aren't really planning on moving to a window seat. I think it was the union that went to the FAA and asked and the FAA said it was not their intent to require PFEs to have an ATP.
11-16-2010 | 07:18 PM
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That came up as we have some PFEs. They're more likely to have an A&P than a COMM. That's the definition of a Professional Flight Engineer, they don't have a pilot certificate and aren't really planning on moving to a window seat. I think it was the union that went to the FAA and asked and the FAA said it was not their intent to require PFEs to have an ATP.
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11-17-2010 | 05:57 AM
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11-17-2010 | 08:41 PM
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PFEs at DAL
Perhaps this is what you refer to: During the 1972 merger, Delta offered the Northeast PFEs a choice of paid training for a Commercial Pilot's certificate or transfer to a ground mechanic job. Management didn't want two unions in the cockpit.
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