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Old 02-22-2022 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp
Lol this thread makes the COVID board a few months back look scholarly in comparison. It generally disturbs me that some of you have enough interest in aviation that you come to this board and figure hey this is where my views are needed.

Go check out the new Truth app if you want to hang with fellow Patriots that need further enlightenment.
Aviation will always involve politics. The OP started the thread because he was concerned that war involving a major producer of crude oil and natural gas that is needed to produce energy for the economy which aviation is very sensitive to, would have a negative effect on aviation. The ensuing discussion/debate is about the reasons why. It's very relevant.

For those who "don't know/care about politics because it doesn't affect me and I don't understand any of that stuff" the simple explanation is: If the policies our political leaders pursue today make it so that energy prices are so high that your customers can't afford to buy a seat in the back of the airplane, your company starts parking planes again, and the pilot hiring boom/shortage/whatever you want to call it becomes another pilot hiring bust, and before long, leads to another lost decade. We're closer to that point than many are willing to accept.
Old 02-22-2022 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill
We’ll see if you’re still clowning around in a few weeks.

Let’s take a look at a legit quote from our current commander in chief.

https://mobile.twitter.com/litcapita...07961541173255

I’m not excited to watch our weak leadership go “toe-to-toe” with anyone. I’m even less excited to watch Biden speak in the next 5 minutes. Does he know where he is? Who he’s taking about? Probably not without the script he’ll be reading off.
Boating is serious business. I never clown around on the boat, it attracts cops, and they make me put my beer down to answer questions.
Old 02-22-2022 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
The number I referenced was from a French publication and published in May 2021.
Yes, and NOW after seeing what it’s going to cost all of Europe, the French are even reconsidering. But they lost a decade with their dithering. Nuclear power reactors are long lead time items, not something you throw up between this winter and next. From Forbes one whole week ago:

Feb 15, 2022,08:45am EST

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The threat of war in Ukraine coupled with the supply chain crunch is causing France to consider expanding its nuclear energy program. It will build as many as 14 nuclear reactors by 2050 — not just to resist natural gas shortages but also to battle climate change. Construction could begin in 2028.

Natural gas prices have spiked in Europe while Russia is amassing troops along its Ukrainian border, forcing Europe to potentially ban Russian natural gas. As for France, it wants to fall back on an energy source that is both carbon-free and reliable — one that has provided at least 70% of its electricity since the 1970s.

“What our country needs ... is the rebirth of France’s nuclear industry,” French President Emmanuel Macron said in a speech. He has also committed to increasing France’s share of offshore wind energy and solar power while extending the lives of current nuclear units. High natural gas prices and idled nuclear power plants have forced France to use more coal this winter.
Old 02-22-2022 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by chihuahua
This is really nothing new. It's the main problem in the Middle East and places like Afghanistan. A bunch of people who historically have their own ethnicity/culture/identity were thrown together into a bunch of random countries with no regard for any ethnic and cultural differences when the major world powers had to figure out how to give up their empires yet still organize the world. The result has been the dictators, wars, and suffering.
You can add many countries in Africa as well.
Old 02-22-2022 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedbird2263
You can add many countries in Africa as well.
You should check out the response from Kenya to the UN regarding the Russian aggression
Old 02-22-2022 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by chihuahua
Assuming you aren't trolling. Ukraine has it's own language, culture, traditions, and identity. There are many Ukrainians in the U.S. They don't want to be called Russians, because they are not, they're Ukrainians and it's different than the Russian culture. Same with Poland and all the other former Soviet countries. They were all under control of the U.S.S.R, which no longer exists, but still had their own ethnicities, cultures, and traditions.
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"Poland and all the other former Soviet countries"

Really? Poland? Soviet?
Get your facts straight.
Old 02-22-2022 | 12:58 PM
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France generates 70% of it electricity with nuclear.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_France

To say the Ukraine is not a nation is high order historical ignorance. Look up Ruthenian
Old 02-22-2022 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
"Poland and all the other former Soviet countries"

Really? Poland? Soviet?
Get your facts straight.
it was a USSR satellite, signatory of the Warsaw pact and most definitely communist. It may not have been USSR but it certainly was in the USSR orbit. The OP didn't have the exact terminology correct but it surely fits squarely in its intent. It isn't a stretch for Putin since he has already made so many outrageous claims
Old 02-22-2022 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chihuahua
Assuming you aren't trolling. Ukraine has it's own language, culture, traditions, and identity. There are many Ukrainians in the U.S. They don't want to be called Russians, because they are not, they're Ukrainians and it's different than the Russian culture. Same with Poland and all the other former Soviet countries. They were all under control of the U.S.S.R, which no longer exists, but still had their own ethnicities, cultures, and traditions.
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To say the Ukraine is not a nation is high order historical ignorance. Look up Ruthenian
Yes. In fact modern ethnic Russians are actually descended from people who once migrated out of the Ukraine region.
Old 02-22-2022 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
it was a USSR satellite, signatory of the Warsaw pact and most definitely communist. It may not have been USSR but it certainly was in the USSR orbit. The OP didn't have the exact terminology correct but it surely fits squarely in its intent. It isn't a stretch for Putin since he has already made so many outrageous claims
Poland was the least cooperative and most tenuous of the soviet satellite states, and were acquired totally against their will (by both Germany and the USSR). Their solidarity movement led the way for Eastern Europe to ditch their soviet overlords and was a huge factor in the collapse of the USSR.

Poland is strongly in the western orbit today, is a staunch US ally and full NATO member.
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