Should we be concerned for our future?
#71
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Poland was probably the least cooperative and most tenuous of the soviet satellite states, and were acquired totally against their will by both Germany and USSR). Their solidarity movement led the way for Eastern Europe to ditch their soviet overlords and was a huge factor in the collapse of the USSR.
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Sorry, country that was occupied by the Soviet Union after WWII and chose communism all on its own and was thereafter never actually influenced or controlled one bit by the Soviet Union. And it was just a coincidence all these communist governments in Poland and other countries that were completely independent from the Soviet Union collapsed around the same time as the Soviet Union.
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Sorry, country that was occupied by the Soviet Union after WWII and chose communism all on its own and was thereafter never actually influenced or controlled one bit by the Soviet Union. And it was just a coincidence all these communist governments in Poland and other countries that were completely independent from the Soviet Union collapsed around the same time as the Soviet Union.
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Trying to be sarcastic at the implication that Poland was somehow free from the U.S.S.R
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Except they’ve proven time and again that they won’t and after 30 years of underfunding their own military now can’t.
Germany, France, the UK, and Italy ALL have a higher GDP than Russia. H€||, Canada has a higher GDP than Russia. But Europe isn’t INTERESTED in paying the freight for their own defense when they’ve been able to get Uncle Sugar to do it for them for the last 75 years.
A few decades ago, France got 80% of their electric power from nuclear energy. Germany was something like 40%. Finances be damned, they are now energy dependent on Russia and wouldn’t get through next winter without it. And there aren’t enough LPG tankers in existence to replace the pipeline. Think we can supply Europe with coal by airlift ala The Berlin Airlift?
They made the CHOICE to become dependent on Russian natural gas, just like they made the choice to let their militaries wither away after the USSR dissolved. And the Ukraine started it’s independence with 170 ICBMs and 1700 nukes that they sold. You think that Russia would be threatening them now if they’d even kept a half dozen nukes?
Eventually we need to let the rest of the world take responsibility for the their own actions.
Germany, France, the UK, and Italy ALL have a higher GDP than Russia. H€||, Canada has a higher GDP than Russia. But Europe isn’t INTERESTED in paying the freight for their own defense when they’ve been able to get Uncle Sugar to do it for them for the last 75 years.
A few decades ago, France got 80% of their electric power from nuclear energy. Germany was something like 40%. Finances be damned, they are now energy dependent on Russia and wouldn’t get through next winter without it. And there aren’t enough LPG tankers in existence to replace the pipeline. Think we can supply Europe with coal by airlift ala The Berlin Airlift?
They made the CHOICE to become dependent on Russian natural gas, just like they made the choice to let their militaries wither away after the USSR dissolved. And the Ukraine started it’s independence with 170 ICBMs and 1700 nukes that they sold. You think that Russia would be threatening them now if they’d even kept a half dozen nukes?
Eventually we need to let the rest of the world take responsibility for the their own actions.
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But could we confront them in Eastern Europe? Sure. That's actually what our legacy force structure was designed to do. Especially since NATO allies would obviously be involved.
They're not ten feet tall. The soviets might have been 6'2". Russia today? 5'9".
RU population is less than half of ours, and their economy less than that. They're not even on par with us technically.
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Frackers disagree.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fracker...150760?tesla=y
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fracker...150760?tesla=y
#79
Not sure what that means? The point was Frackers aren't interested in increasing production in any measurable amount over the next year. It's been around the financial sector shows and reports for some time, not just the WSJ.
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frackers will increase production when the price is right. It oil goes up they increase production. It not rocket science. The Saudis tried to put frackers out of business years ago. They failed. They are still around, waiting for prices to increase to return. You will see.
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