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Old 03-16-2022 | 05:36 PM
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How do you not get to be called a Putin apologist? Is there an approved ribbon to wear yet?
At least they're not calling everyone they disagree with Nazis yet. That's real progress.
Old 03-16-2022 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Time will tell, but the logistics certainly don’t favor Ukraine. They are perilously close to having their supply lines cut off by encircling Russian forces.




From the BBC:

Like the nazis cut the supply lines from North America to Britain? Harder than it sounds, where there's a will, there's a way.
Old 03-16-2022 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker172
No one's making excuses for anything. They're explaining to you why it happened.
That's funny. "Why" is subjective. There's a bunch of rationales behind the why, but no one truly knows the real reason why, except Vladimir Putin.

And anyone who repeats Vlady's reasons why could be considered as making excuses for him.
Old 03-16-2022 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
That's funny. "Why" is subjective. There's a bunch of rationales behind the why, but no one truly knows the real reason why, except Vladimir Putin.

And anyone who repeats Vlady's reasons why could be considered as making excuses for him.
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Old 03-16-2022 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker172
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Your passive-aggressive button doesn't seem to be working.
Old 03-16-2022 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
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Your passive-aggressive button doesn't seem to be working.
Yeah it's late and I've got other things going on. Have you enlisted yet?
Old 03-16-2022 | 06:29 PM
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Yeah it's late and I've got other things going on. Have you enlisted yet?
Apparently I'm fighting the war here on the APC front. Let's see if it spills over into more direct conflict for Americans.
Old 03-16-2022 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
It's fascinating to watch the pivot over the last few weeks. First you said that the west should stand down and let the unstoppable Russian juggernaut take whatever it wants.

Now, you're saying it's the West's fault that we didn't do enough to prevent war from happening.

It's definitely a tricky spot for Putin apologists.
Like these posts of mine on Feb 24?:
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NATO made it crystal clear that they were going to do absolutely nothing (unless you count the laughable sanctions as something) to stop this.
I've been surprised at the weak response to Russia. Putin would probably have stopped with the eastern provinces had there been a more robust response. But now, he's probably figuring that he can take all of Ukraine without any military response from the west.
Originally Posted by Andy
.A lot of talk about stopping Russia. Without boots on the ground, Russia has a carte blanche to retake buffer nations. At some point, I expect NATO article 5 to be tested.
Again, Yalta Conference. Get familiar with it.
Since you have a comprehension problem, let me be clear. Without western (read NATO) boots on the ground, Russia is likely to eventually take all of Ukraine.
I never stated that the west should stand down. I did say that I don't want US boots on the ground because that never ends well for the US.

Just because I look at this conflict through all sides, as Sun Tzu ascribed, does not make me a Putin apologist. I have posted why Russia has made claims to Ukraine, which have been ignored by western media. I realize you're not going to look beyond the propaganda that you're spoon fed, but you seem to enjoy blissful ignorance.
To be clear, I have never stated that Putin's claims to Ukraine are legitimate.
Old 03-16-2022 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
Apparently I'm fighting the war here on the APC front. Let's see if it spills over into more direct conflict for Americans.
I'm sure the Ukranian people are grateful for your courage.
Old 03-16-2022 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
That's funny. "Why" is subjective. There's a bunch of rationales behind the why, but no one truly knows the real reason why, except Vladimir Putin.

And anyone who repeats Vlady's reasons why could be considered as making excuses for him.
YGBSM! I posted at the beginning of this thread that Putin wanted the buffer zone from Europe back, including providing historical reasons for that and the promises made to Russia during wwII. I've even gone round and round with rickair777 multiple times on Russia's concern about European aggression (mostly Germany).
All of this hasn't been hard to follow, but since it was obviously too complex for you, you chose to label me a Putin apologist. Lovely. Someone who has never spent even a single day in the military.
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