Should we be concerned for our future?
#171
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
In Europe. Nothing.
At home, stop with the green BS and accept the fact that fossil fuel isn't going anywhere, in any of our lifetimes. Also, if you want to be clean, nuclear. And lets stop devaluing our currency. That would be nice too. Beyond that, actually give politicians and elites that commit crimes the common man would spend time in prison for, the same punishment. All this would be a major step in the right direction.
At home, stop with the green BS and accept the fact that fossil fuel isn't going anywhere, in any of our lifetimes. Also, if you want to be clean, nuclear. And lets stop devaluing our currency. That would be nice too. Beyond that, actually give politicians and elites that commit crimes the common man would spend time in prison for, the same punishment. All this would be a major step in the right direction.
#172
In a land of unicorns
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From: Whale FO
One mistake people are making is underestimating Russia. It is an extremely wealthy state, with huge gold and currency reserves and with a surplus budget.
They need to be removed from SWIFT. That will decimate their financial system. China and DPRK can't sustain them for long, especially when a large portion of Chinese money is in USD.
They need to be removed from SWIFT. That will decimate their financial system. China and DPRK can't sustain them for long, especially when a large portion of Chinese money is in USD.
#173
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In Europe. Nothing.
At home, stop with the green BS and accept the fact that fossil fuel isn't going anywhere, in any of our lifetimes. Also, if you want to be clean, nuclear. And lets stop devaluing our currency. That would be nice too. Beyond that, actually give politicians and elites that commit crimes the common man would spend time in prison for, the same punishment. All this would be a major step in the right direction.
At home, stop with the green BS and accept the fact that fossil fuel isn't going anywhere, in any of our lifetimes. Also, if you want to be clean, nuclear. And lets stop devaluing our currency. That would be nice too. Beyond that, actually give politicians and elites that commit crimes the common man would spend time in prison for, the same punishment. All this would be a major step in the right direction.
Build the Nuclear, build the solar, build the wind, drill for more oil in America, open the pipelines all of which will get us independent of needing any other nation for energy while keeping our own money from flowing out of the Country.
I have 2 EVs with solar on my roof. When people talk about high gas prices I don't have to worry how much it will cost to fill up. I do worry about the instability it will bring and the higher prices I will have to pay for everything shipped. Most of which could be mitigated by transitioning to EVs. I understand that ships would still run on bunker oil or other forms of fossil fuel but most of the supply chain costs associated with transportation would not be at the whims of speculators, OPEC and other other oil producing nations. This not only would keep the money here in America but selling the oil to others that have not made the transition away from oil would make the U.S. Hundreds of Billions a year in revenue.
#174
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From: UNA
looked it up and guess I was wrong. I was under the impression we had something that was capable of shooting down ICBMs, but I was mistaken. While I think Rick’s deterrent point is valid, I’ll admit that’s not what I was thinking.
Still think this is a bigger threat to Western Europe than us, which was the point of my original post.
Still think this is a bigger threat to Western Europe than us, which was the point of my original post.
#175
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This is the only thing you all should be worried about...
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/23/business/brent-oil-ukraine-russia/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/23/business/brent-oil-ukraine-russia/index.html
#176
The questions now are:
1) Will economic isolation have any effect?
2) Will the rest of the world join in?
Unfortunately I see a situation where this will slowly be forgotten, the Europeans will want their cheap gas from the world's "Old Gas Station," and Ukraine will be forgotten.
And on the next former Soviet satellite.
#178
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In Europe. Nothing.
At home, stop with the green BS and accept the fact that fossil fuel isn't going anywhere, in any of our lifetimes. Also, if you want to be clean, nuclear. And lets stop devaluing our currency. That would be nice too. Beyond that, actually give politicians and elites that commit crimes the common man would spend time in prison for, the same punishment. All this would be a major step in the right direction.
At home, stop with the green BS and accept the fact that fossil fuel isn't going anywhere, in any of our lifetimes. Also, if you want to be clean, nuclear. And lets stop devaluing our currency. That would be nice too. Beyond that, actually give politicians and elites that commit crimes the common man would spend time in prison for, the same punishment. All this would be a major step in the right direction.
#180
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Probably not. NATO will get serious now... likely admit additional eastern block states and bulk up defenses.
If Putin just wanted UK, he got it, but this will really wake up Western Europe. They're not going to wait until the red army rolls into Paris. Lesson learned in '39.
If Putin just wanted UK, he got it, but this will really wake up Western Europe. They're not going to wait until the red army rolls into Paris. Lesson learned in '39.
People defending against old wars will get us into the next one. Russia will expend it’s military strength in Ukraine, but they might cyber the West to death if that is what they want to do. It won’t be with bullets.
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