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Old 02-07-2023, 09:19 AM
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If Boeing can't design and install a cost-effective EICAS, how can anyone seriously believe they can deliver a cost-effective pilotless airliner? This will be orders of magnatitude more difficult, in cost, software, hardware and regulatory approval.
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Old 02-07-2023, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FliesInSoup View Post
If Boeing can't design and install a cost-effective EICAS, how can anyone seriously believe they can deliver a cost-effective pilotless airliner? This will be orders of magnatitude more difficult, in cost, software, hardware and regulatory approval.
Boeing can design it, they just can’t get a common type.
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Old 02-07-2023, 09:41 AM
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I agree completely but even then, going to a single pilot is still going to take a very long time. Literally every single thing we do is designed around the "crew cockpit" concept.

Every policy, every procedure will have to be completely changed.
Nobody said the crew had to be another human or even in the same room.

My landscaper rang my doorbell and I answered via my watch. I had a full conversation through a doorbell and a wrist watch while we were 7 time zones away from each other. This was the epiphany moment for me. I don’t know the timeline but it’s coming.
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Old 02-07-2023, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget View Post
Nobody said the crew had to be another human or even in the same room.

My landscaper rang my doorbell and I answered via my watch. I had a full conversation through a doorbell and a wrist watch while we were 7 time zones away from each other. This was the epiphany moment for me. I don’t know the timeline but it’s coming.
Are you serious? Very apples to oranges comparison. Actually, more like an apples to Hershey bar comparison.

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Old 02-07-2023, 10:01 AM
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We won’t go single pilot. We will go 2->0. Any single pilot system must be robust enough to work with zero, so why bother?
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Old 02-07-2023, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget View Post
Nobody said the crew had to be another human or even in the same room.

My landscaper rang my doorbell and I answered via my watch. I had a full conversation through a doorbell and a wrist watch while we were 7 time zones away from each other. This was the epiphany moment for me. I don’t know the timeline but it’s coming.
That technology is 30 years old. The technology required for autonomous flight datalink is not even in development.
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Old 02-07-2023, 10:22 AM
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That technology is 30 years old. The technology required for autonomous flight datalink is not even in development.
You FaceTimed somebody on your wrist watch 30 years ago?! Wow! What’s the weather like in 2040? What should I invest in?
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Originally Posted by Cleared4appch View Post
Are you serious? Very apples to oranges comparison. Actually, more like an apples to Hershey bar comparison.
The year is 2003. My parents are using dial up Internet and I can’t make a phone call. Beeeeeboooooopshhhhhhggggggrrrrrt.

The year is 2018 my door bell is hooked up to my wifi. It also has a camera so I can see my landscaper through a satellite connection to a cellular tower to my cell phone that has a blue tooth connection to my watch. So now while I am out of the country I can carry on a conversation.

It was an analogy my friend. None of those things were predictable in 2003 and yet just 15 short years later they all exist and are widely accepted.
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Old 02-07-2023, 10:51 AM
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You FaceTimed somebody on your wrist watch 30 years ago?! Wow! What’s the weather like in 2040? What should I invest in?
There was internet, mobile phone and webcams. Did it fit on your wrist? No. Is it bleeding edge technology that you can use you a watch instead of a phone/tablet/computer to see&talk to someone? Double NO.
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget View Post
The year is 2003. My parents are using dial up Internet and I can’t make a phone call. Beeeeeboooooopshhhhhhggggggrrrrrt.

The year is 2018 my door bell is hooked up to my wifi. It also has a camera so I can see my landscaper through a satellite connection to a cellular tower to my cell phone that has a blue tooth connection to my watch. So now while I am out of the country I can carry on a conversation.

It was an analogy my friend. None of those things were predictable in 2003 and yet just 15 short years later they all exist and are widely accepted.
The year is 1999, had a Nokia with a Bluetooth headset.
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