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Old 06-18-2019 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CrowneVic
"...the carrier likely will be based near a technology center other than Silicon Valley."

Austin? Dallas? Raleigh? Dulles?
How about SEA? Or is it gate poor? Maybe they could merge/acquire Alaska and get two for one - gates and a developed west coast market.
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Old 06-19-2019 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Moxy has 60 firm orders for the A220/CS300 but will do a “sale and leaseback” transaction with a big lessor for the first 9 - this is a standard transaction for providing additional liquidity up front. Here’s the article talking about the leasing transaction:

https://worldairlinenews.com/2019/06...ZeWKYkY5SOnSv4

Regarding Austin, nobody external to the business knows the route structure yet. All we know is that evidently many, many cities in secondary and tertiary markets have reached out to Moxy begging for airline service. There are many non-hub dots with 100,000+ people that could be connected on the map. Should be very interesting to watch and I hope we continue to get more information soon...
I would only call it a standard transaction for a company lacking liquidity.
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Old 06-19-2019 | 08:15 AM
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So...I take it you disagree...?

In just two short sentences you were able to mix 2 religious terms with a vulgar sex act. Such talent.

Keepin' it classy on APC. Thanks for the visual and reminding me why I quit reading this forum.

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Old 06-19-2019 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I would only call it a standard transaction for a company lacking liquidity.
Nope.

This is SOP for all lease transactions. It is free / low cost financing that every CFO will leverage.
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Old 06-19-2019 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
Nope.

This is SOP for all lease transactions. It is free / low cost financing that every CFO will leverage.
Completely agree. This is a standard financial tool/transaction.
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Old 06-19-2019 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
Nope.

This is SOP for all lease transactions. It is free / low cost financing that every CFO will leverage.
It’s certainly not free or low cost. There are various reasons to sell and leaseback airframes but it’s usually about liquidity. Look at Norwegians actions the last few years.
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Old 06-19-2019 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I would only call it a standard transaction for a company lacking liquidity.
Flying leased aircraft is NOT uncommon.

Of Delta’s 91 B717s they own 3 and lease 88.

In total they lease 198 and own 687.



https://www.delta.com/us/en/about-de...te-information
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Old 06-19-2019 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Flying leased aircraft is NOT uncommon.

Of Delta’s 91 B717s they own 3 and lease 88.

In total they lease 198 and own 687.



https://www.delta.com/us/en/about-de...te-information
I never said it was uncommon. It’s very common to lease aircraft for many reasons. You might want them for a defined period of time, there may be tax implications or it might be a great deal. Purchasing a airframe and then selling it is far less common and generally is about liquidity.
In the case of the DL717’s the leases were heavily subsidized at below market rates.
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Old 06-19-2019 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dawgdriver
So...I take it you disagree...?

In just two short sentences you were able to mix 2 religious terms with a vulgar sex act. Such talent.

Keepin' it classy on APC. Thanks for the visual and reminding me why I quit reading this forum.
You're offended by two common English statements? Shocking.
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Old 06-19-2019 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
It’s certainly not free or low cost. There are various reasons to sell and leaseback airframes but it’s usually about liquidity. Look at Norwegians actions the last few years.
It is typically lower cost than issuing a bond or getting a loan.

Of all financing options out there it is one of the cheapest cost of capital.
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