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Old 03-19-2017, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey View Post
Why would a major US airline that stands to pay you upwards of 300K per year hire a high school graduate.

Honestly I don't get how this is ever even a question people need to ask. You can't have it both ways; you can't say you deserve more money yet require less education.

Like it or not college is fully expected of any professional anywhere. It's the new high school.
You are the reason why I wear an ID lanyard from my High School. Love flying with a new F/O and the inevitable questions of background and what you did in a previous life come up. The look on their face is priceless when they see the HS lanyard.
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Old 03-19-2017, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey View Post
Why would a major US airline that stands to pay you upwards of 300K per year hire a high school graduate.

Honestly I don't get how this is ever even a question people need to ask. You can't have it both ways; you can't say you deserve more money yet require less education.

Like it or not college is fully expected of any professional anywhere. It's the new high school.
Because they can, and do. The old saying goes, a 4 year degree, an airline pilot doses not make. By the way, you should get a refund for your tuition. You college didn't teach you how a thesis is research, constructed, and written... too bad.
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Old 03-19-2017, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey View Post
Why would a major US airline that stands to pay you upwards of 300K per year hire a high school graduate.

Honestly I don't get how this is ever even a question people need to ask. You can't have it both ways; you can't say you deserve more money yet require less education.

Like it or not college is fully expected of any professional anywhere. It's the new high school.
Some ULCC pay 300k and don't require degrees, at least for mine.
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Old 03-19-2017, 11:02 AM
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Some ULCC pay 300k and don't require degrees, at least for mine.
No ULCC pays $300k if you are flying by the contract. If you're cheating and or have zero days off then maybe.

As far as 4 year degrees go, it's a barrier to entry and that is always good. The harder the job is to get the more it drives up wages. More applicants in the pool means more guys ready to undercut you.
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Old 03-19-2017, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey View Post
Why would a major US airline that stands to pay you upwards of 300K per year hire a high school graduate.

Honestly I don't get how this is ever even a question people need to ask. You can't have it both ways; you can't say you deserve more money yet require less education.

Like it or not college is fully expected of any professional anywhere. It's the new high school.
Agreed, it's a freaking college degree, not that hard. I know buds who majored in drinking games with a +3.0 and are now airline pilots as former military pilots.
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Old 03-19-2017, 12:05 PM
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No ULCC pays $300k if you are flying by the contract. If you're cheating and or have zero days off then maybe.
A 90 hour line at the top ULCC pay rate will bring in $309k with profit sharing and 401k or 100 hours for just straight pay of about 300k not including PS/401k. I average 90 hours and 16-17 days off and I'm not overly senior.
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A 90 hour line at the top ULCC pay rate will bring in $309k with profit sharing and 401k or 100 hours for just straight pay of about 300k not including PS/401k. I average 90 hours and 16-17 days off and I'm not overly senior.
I guess this is at allegiant. I forgot about them. I was thinking only spirit and frontier
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:53 PM
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You are the reason why I wear an ID lanyard from my High School. Love flying with a new F/O and the inevitable questions of background and what you did in a previous life come up. The look on their face is priceless when they see the HS lanyard.
What are you talking about? You sound ridiculous. You know exactly what I mean.
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH View Post
The airlines don't view an online degree that you got when you were 40 the same as a brick and mortar university that you completed right out of high school. It isn't just checking a box anymore, they ask for transcripts. I'd save your time and money and try to get on somewhere that doesn't require it. The regionals have flows and the ULCC's can offer a decent QOL. United and American don't require it but you're fighting an uphill battle.
The people in charge of hiring at US majors have a culture and demographic that they want to protect. A degree and an ATP by 23 says that you came from the right neighborhood. They do not want the lower classes working their way up into jobs reserved for upper middle class frat boys. Different life experience and political views could possible rock the boat and no one wants that.
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Old 03-19-2017, 03:01 PM
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Because they can, and do. The old saying goes, a 4 year degree, an airline pilot doses not make. By the way, you should get a refund for your tuition. You college didn't teach you how a thesis is research, constructed, and written... too bad.
Oh stop. Don't be a baby. No one ever said going to college teaches you how to fly a jet, if you think that's the reason to get a college degree you're an ignoramus. With few exceptions, going to college doesn't expressly teach you how to do any job. It's about growing up and doing what's expected of you.

I truly don't get how you can call yourself a professional, maintain that you deserve more money, and at the same time claim that you don't need a college education. Unless of course you don't have one and need to rationalize your decision.

It's 2017, not 1967. College is expected of everyone, get over it.
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