Zero recommends & no degree?
03-20-2017 | 09:04 AM
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Just out of curiosity. You have 10,000 resumes on your table and only 100 jobs to fill. How else do you seperate the stack? People with a degree is an easy way, thats all it is, just a way to dwindle the stack. Most pilots have close to equal skills so thats the best option they have.
03-20-2017 | 01:11 PM
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From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Anyway, to the OP.....have you ruled out going to a regional that has a flow to a legacy? Regional pay in the States has come up to livable levels, upgrades can be quick and they are desperate for pilots.
Perhaps someone else who is better in the know can comment on how long it's taking to flow up.
03-20-2017 | 01:28 PM
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A degree earned online is equally valid and equally accepted. Whomever believes that a degree earned when younger, or earned in person rather than online is somehow weighted greater or valued more, is full of hot air. It simply is NOT true.
03-20-2017 | 03:29 PM
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Sorry about starting a debate about the merits of a degree 
I was simply curious who has been hired without one (and where). I think that topic has been beaten to death already. So let's assume I had a 4-year degree.
My second problem......
My lack of presence in the US work force, and education outside of the country, means I have little to no contacts inside the US airlines. We all know how important internal recommends are. I could ultimately take the time and money to obtain a full degree, but it's a lot harder to build contacts from my position.
Has anyone been successful at a major or LCC without any recommends at all?
I was simply curious who has been hired without one (and where). I think that topic has been beaten to death already. So let's assume I had a 4-year degree.
My second problem......
My lack of presence in the US work force, and education outside of the country, means I have little to no contacts inside the US airlines. We all know how important internal recommends are. I could ultimately take the time and money to obtain a full degree, but it's a lot harder to build contacts from my position.
Has anyone been successful at a major or LCC without any recommends at all?
03-20-2017 | 08:45 PM
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Lets me honest. We have our own opinion what this or that airlines / HR are looking for. How many of you have ever recommended someone or know someone who thought he or she was going to get hired but was turned down. Realistically, we don't know what they are look for. Certain things such as a 4 year degree will help, but maybe someone on the HR panel thinks volunteer work is more important.
03-20-2017 | 09:30 PM
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03-21-2017 | 07:11 PM
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03-22-2017 | 12:35 PM
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Hired in Feb. at Allegiant Air...no degree.
4600 TT no jet
2100 MEL
1700 TPIC
500 Part 135
No part 121
No enternal reqs
Male & not a minority
ATP, Gold Seal CFII, MEI, AGI
Clean FAA record, plenty of prayer, 0 tickets last seven years. No types or degree (in progress).1 job fair which was key, applied six months prior and periodically updated app... discovered at fair unbeknownst to me it was incomplete which the HR recruiter kindly helped with. Thanking God for filling in the gaps.
4600 TT no jet
2100 MEL
1700 TPIC
500 Part 135
No part 121
No enternal reqs
Male & not a minority
ATP, Gold Seal CFII, MEI, AGI
Clean FAA record, plenty of prayer, 0 tickets last seven years. No types or degree (in progress).1 job fair which was key, applied six months prior and periodically updated app... discovered at fair unbeknownst to me it was incomplete which the HR recruiter kindly helped with. Thanking God for filling in the gaps.
03-22-2017 | 04:53 PM
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It's very well established, actually. Learning what the target employer wants is part of the preparation process when applying, and prior to interviewing. If one doesnt know what an employer is looking for, one has not done much research or preparation.
03-22-2017 | 06:06 PM
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There's still people who attend job fairs, interview prep, multiple recommendation, who still gets turned down. So why is that? we'll never know because in the TBNT email they don't tell us why we didn't get hired and what they wanted. They just say "We have other applicants blah blah blah"
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