Zero recommends & no degree?
#41
Honestly, the education system in this country is braindead and a complete scam. Colleges are in the business of making money, not educating people to get good careers.
I learned more from traveling the world in my 20's than anything I could have gotten from sitting in a classroom.
I learned more from traveling the world in my 20's than anything I could have gotten from sitting in a classroom.
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Yes, because everybody that comes out of college with an undergrad degree becomes a doctor. There are a lot of successful people who skip college completely and go to trade schools instead.
#43
"I learned more from traveling the world in my 20's than anything I could have gotten from sitting in a classroom."
I think you could've learned more sitting in a classroom, if nothing more than the risks of making sweeping generalizations that might not be relevant to the discussion.
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I don't think so, but then I didn't post this:
"I learned more from traveling the world in my 20's than anything I could have gotten from sitting in a classroom."
I think you could've learned more sitting in a classroom, if nothing more than the risks of making sweeping generalizations that might not be relevant to the discussion.
"I learned more from traveling the world in my 20's than anything I could have gotten from sitting in a classroom."
I think you could've learned more sitting in a classroom, if nothing more than the risks of making sweeping generalizations that might not be relevant to the discussion.
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Stupid requirement.....
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Sorry about starting a debate about the merits of a degree
I was simply curious who has been hired without one (and where). I think that topic has been beaten to death already. So let's assume I had a 4-year degree.
My second problem......
My lack of presence in the US work force, and education outside of the country, means I have little to no contacts inside the US airlines. We all know how important internal recommends are. I could ultimately take the time and money to obtain a full degree, but it's a lot harder to build contacts from my position.
Has anyone been successful at a major or LCC without any recommends at all?
I was simply curious who has been hired without one (and where). I think that topic has been beaten to death already. So let's assume I had a 4-year degree.
My second problem......
My lack of presence in the US work force, and education outside of the country, means I have little to no contacts inside the US airlines. We all know how important internal recommends are. I could ultimately take the time and money to obtain a full degree, but it's a lot harder to build contacts from my position.
Has anyone been successful at a major or LCC without any recommends at all?
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What a rediculous thread... people with degrees championing the merits their accomplishments and those without degrees complaining that it just isn't fair. Well, the reality is that if you want the best jobs in this industry you need a degree. That was the reality when you all made the decision to continue you education or not. Can we stop beating the dead horse now?
To the OP, I'd shoot for a ULCC. Great pay and benefits, and it will enhance your resume much more effectively than going to a regional to get beat on day in and day out. If you do decide to go for more school it will be easier to manage with a better income and quality of life. In any case, good luck!
To the OP, I'd shoot for a ULCC. Great pay and benefits, and it will enhance your resume much more effectively than going to a regional to get beat on day in and day out. If you do decide to go for more school it will be easier to manage with a better income and quality of life. In any case, good luck!
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Just out of curiosity. You have 10,000 resumes on your table and only 100 jobs to fill. How else do you seperate the stack? People with a degree is an easy way, thats all it is, just a way to dwindle the stack. Most pilots have close to equal skills so thats the best option they have.
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Just out of curiosity. You have 10,000 resumes on your table and only 100 jobs to fill. How else do you seperate the stack? People with a degree is an easy way, thats all it is, just a way to dwindle the stack. Most pilots have close to equal skills so thats the best option they have.
#50
Sorry about starting a debate about the merits of a degree
I was simply curious who has been hired without one (and where). I think that topic has been beaten to death already. So let's assume I had a 4-year degree.
My second problem......
My lack of presence in the US work force, and education outside of the country, means I have little to no contacts inside the US airlines. We all know how important internal recommends are. I could ultimately take the time and money to obtain a full degree, but it's a lot harder to build contacts from my position.
Has anyone been successful at a major or LCC without any recommends at all?
I was simply curious who has been hired without one (and where). I think that topic has been beaten to death already. So let's assume I had a 4-year degree.
My second problem......
My lack of presence in the US work force, and education outside of the country, means I have little to no contacts inside the US airlines. We all know how important internal recommends are. I could ultimately take the time and money to obtain a full degree, but it's a lot harder to build contacts from my position.
Has anyone been successful at a major or LCC without any recommends at all?
Honestly in today's market the best thing to is get to a Job fair and meet and greet with every person you can . Who one knows goes a lot further sometimes than what's on your resume, just is what it is .
Best of luck .
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