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Old 04-03-2018 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by flysooner9
I dont work for envoy. However if you dont need 1,000 part 121 then why do they advertise you need 1000 hours part 121 to be a direct entry captain?
You sure post on Envoy threads like you know the ins and outs of Envoy.
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Old 04-03-2018 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by havick206
Read the regs. PIC jet counts towards the 1000 hours. Plenty of guys recently upgraded as street captains having flown nothing more than a citation or lear part 91 as pic. I don’t necessarily agree with it, but it’s legal.
The only 91 time that counts is 91k, which is fractional.
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Old 04-03-2018 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hhutchens1

I have my first baby to be born in 8 weeks so I’m trying to get a base I can get to one way from where I live (Amarillo Tx).
1) is your wife onboard with this idea
2) is she the resourceful, independent type
3) is her mother closeby?
4) do you ABSOLUTELY have to do this right now?

I agree with the others who suggest getting your ATP and maybe applying to spirit or something. With that much turbine PIC you're way above the "Hole and a heartbeat" that the regionals are taking right now. You have a lot more options.
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Old 04-03-2018 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
You sure post on Envoy threads like you know the ins and outs of Envoy.
I worked there from 2011-2014 so I know some stuff. Also still know lots of people there.
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Old 04-04-2018 | 04:27 PM
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I would say wait till after the baby is born. You start this process now and you will be in training when the baby is born. That would be a bad thing for you, your wife, and your employer.
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Old 04-04-2018 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Seriously? I'm not sure he could even legally be PIC of what he flew without an ATP:

§ 91.1053 Crewmember experience.
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The original poster has not stated what he flew. He stated that he has turbine experience as pilot in command.

If rated for the aircraft (category, class, and type as applicable to the aircraft), then he's legal to log the time as pilot in command.

Turbine time, and turbojet time, does not necessarily meet the requirements of 1000 hours PIC in this context, however, as that time has specific conditions attached.

The regulation you quoted, however is applicable not to the logging of PIC experience, nor to acting as PIC of turbine or turbojet equipment in general. You're confusing your regulations, and are looking in the wrong place. You're considering operations under Fractional (14 CFR 91 Subpart K) operations, which is inapplicable. The original poster stated he has been operating under Part 91 corporate operations, which do not need to meet the requirements of fractional operators, nor hold an operating certificate.

Time acquired for a corporate operation that does not require an ATP, and which is not fractional, charter, or airline in aircraft requiring a type, in operations requiring an ATP, in aircraft having 10 or more passenger seats, does not meet the 1000 hour requirement that a "street captain" would need.
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Old 04-04-2018 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
The original poster has not stated what he flew. He stated that he has turbine experience as pilot in command.

If rated for the aircraft (category, class, and type as applicable to the aircraft), then he's legal to log the time as pilot in command.

Turbine time, and turbojet time, does not necessarily meet the requirements of 1000 hours PIC in this context, however, as that time has specific conditions attached.

The regulation you quoted, however is applicable not to the logging of PIC experience, nor to acting as PIC of turbine or turbojet equipment in general. You're confusing your regulations, and are looking in the wrong place. You're considering operations under Fractional (14 CFR 91 Subpart K) operations, which is inapplicable. The original poster stated he has been operating under Part 91 corporate operations, which do not need to meet the requirements of fractional operators, nor hold an operating certificate.

Time acquired for a corporate operation that does not require an ATP, and which is not fractional, charter, or airline in aircraft requiring a type, in operations requiring an ATP, in aircraft having 10 or more passenger seats, does not meet the 1000 hour requirement that a "street captain" would need.
Thanks. I didn't believe it met criteria, but obviously looked in the wrong part of the reg.
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