Corporate to Legacies
03-31-2019 | 07:14 AM
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Corporate to Legacies
Hello all,
What’s the feasibility for going into corporate aviation to skip the regionals, and get hired at a legacy carrier? I’m considering going to the regionals but I feel I would enjoy flying corporate more, as well as I’m attracted to home basing, an 8-6 schedule, and the same pay. I know regionals would probably be the fastest way, but what kinds, if any, corporate pilots are getting hired at the majors?
What’s the feasibility for going into corporate aviation to skip the regionals, and get hired at a legacy carrier? I’m considering going to the regionals but I feel I would enjoy flying corporate more, as well as I’m attracted to home basing, an 8-6 schedule, and the same pay. I know regionals would probably be the fastest way, but what kinds, if any, corporate pilots are getting hired at the majors?
03-31-2019 | 07:37 AM
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It is going to take more time to get 1000TPIC in the typical 91 operation than the typical 121 operation; total time also tends to come MUCH slower.
Most folks who have gone to a legacy or major cargo carrier from 91/135 have had prior 121 experience, although some did not. Like anything, networking matters.
Most folks who have gone to a legacy or major cargo carrier from 91/135 have had prior 121 experience, although some did not. Like anything, networking matters.
03-31-2019 | 09:44 AM
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It's certainly possible and even common, but will take longer.
Many 91/135 people who get to a legacy had some regional time back in the day somewhere.
Majors like folks who know what they're getting into. Also you'll have more networking opportunities in the regional ecosystem.
Many 91/135 people who get to a legacy had some regional time back in the day somewhere.
Majors like folks who know what they're getting into. Also you'll have more networking opportunities in the regional ecosystem.
03-31-2019 | 09:47 AM
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Hello all,
What’s the feasibility for going into corporate aviation to skip the regionals, and get hired at a legacy carrier? I’m considering going to the regionals but I feel I would enjoy flying corporate more, as well as I’m attracted to home basing, an 8-6 schedule, and the same pay. I know regionals would probably be the fastest way, but what kinds, if any, corporate pilots are getting hired at the majors?
What’s the feasibility for going into corporate aviation to skip the regionals, and get hired at a legacy carrier? I’m considering going to the regionals but I feel I would enjoy flying corporate more, as well as I’m attracted to home basing, an 8-6 schedule, and the same pay. I know regionals would probably be the fastest way, but what kinds, if any, corporate pilots are getting hired at the majors?
They know what they are getting with a regional guy. And they know he/she can pass a 121 training program (and whether or not they had any failures). A 91 type rating course is paid for to ensure you pass.
Personally, if a legacy is 100% your dream, I'd go regional. If you're young and open to what may come, do the corporate route. There's no wrong path ultimately.
03-31-2019 | 12:39 PM
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I know 4 that went corporate to FDX without 121 prior time plus one that went to JB. I’ve known guys who flunked out of corporate type courses and DPEs who flunked guys. So, anything’s possible.
Yes, less flying time and, in the race between the tortoise and the hare, bet on the hare, but the tortoise still might win.
GF
Yes, less flying time and, in the race between the tortoise and the hare, bet on the hare, but the tortoise still might win.
GF
03-31-2019 | 01:23 PM
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I know 4 that went corporate to FDX without 121 prior time plus one that went to JB. I’ve known guys who flunked out of corporate type courses and DPEs who flunked guys. So, anything’s possible.
Yes, less flying time and, in the race between the tortoise and the hare, bet on the hare, but the tortoise still might win.
GF
Yes, less flying time and, in the race between the tortoise and the hare, bet on the hare, but the tortoise still might win.
GF
Did you put ANY effort in? If so, maybe jets aren’t for you.
03-31-2019 | 02:09 PM
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03-31-2019 | 07:07 PM
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Naturally the number is relatively low for failures in 121, but I’d have no time believing it’s higher than 91. I’ve seen people fail to make it through initial types, I’ve seen folks be subject to Training Review Boards, and I’ve seen training failures that will haunt you for life in the 121 world. It’s not a matter of flunking out, it’s a matter of busting any check ride and thus being subject to PRIA reportable events. Of those, there are a fair amount.
04-01-2019 | 06:22 AM
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True, a Part 91 failure won’t haunt you, too much. It’ll still be in the FAA record as a pink slip and retake.
The only “at risk” check is the initial type, no accessible records on PCs that I’ve seen. I’ve had airlines ask for PRIA and others not ask as a chief pilot. There’s much less structured record keeping.
GF
The only “at risk” check is the initial type, no accessible records on PCs that I’ve seen. I’ve had airlines ask for PRIA and others not ask as a chief pilot. There’s much less structured record keeping.
GF
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