Misdemeanor B
#11
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Everybody makes choices. But pouring time and effort into a career you are going to disqualify yourself from isn’t a brilliant choice.
Even the wrong stuff on your social pages may keep you from getting some jobs though. HR won’t TELL YOU that’s why you are not getting the call, but it it will be.
Even the wrong stuff on your social pages may keep you from getting some jobs though. HR won’t TELL YOU that’s why you are not getting the call, but it it will be.
#12
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...you continued to break the law? You didn't learn your lesson the first time, and continued to do what was knowingly wrong. IOW, you have a demonstrated habit pattern of breaking the law and having issues with authority.
#13
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Stop getting arrested, if you’re passionate about a cause get involved in the actual hard work, IE fundraising and lobbying. It’ll build your resume (assuming your cause isn’t too radical) and it’ll keep you employable.
#14
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From: 737 FO
If I was cited for Disrupting a public meeting while protesting climate change at my state capitol which is a citation when you even utter words to disrupt a meeting how would that affect an interview/hiring being a class b misdemeanor. How would it affect you if you continued to protest and had more than one?
#15
And let us consider how the HR hiring mavens are going to parse THIS statement:
1. Did something I’ll-advised.
2. Doesn’t regret it.
3. In fact, wants to do it again.
4. If he/she can get away with avoiding consequences.
So the HR maven has to ask him/herself:
Is this the guy/gal I want to out in charge of a $100 million aircraft and the lives of 200 customers? Someone who wants to know how close he can push the envelope?
And many of them actually read this website.
You might want to change your board name, assuming they aren’t already combing Google to find environmental activists that have been arrested in state capitals that they can rather easily check against the FAA airman database.
2. Doesn’t regret it.
3. In fact, wants to do it again.
4. If he/she can get away with avoiding consequences.
So the HR maven has to ask him/herself:
Is this the guy/gal I want to out in charge of a $100 million aircraft and the lives of 200 customers? Someone who wants to know how close he can push the envelope?
And many of them actually read this website.
You might want to change your board name, assuming they aren’t already combing Google to find environmental activists that have been arrested in state capitals that they can rather easily check against the FAA airman database.
#16
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And let us consider how the HR hiring mavens are going to parse THIS statement:
1. Did something I’ll-advised.
2. Doesn’t regret it.
3. In fact, wants to do it again.
4. If he/she can get away with avoiding consequences.
So the HR maven has to ask him/herself:
Is this the guy/gal I want to out in charge of a $100 million aircraft and the lives of 200 customers? Someone who wants to know how close he can push the envelope?
And many of them actually read this website.
You might want to change your board name, assuming they aren’t already combing Google to find environmental activists that have been arrested in state capitals that they can rather easily check against the FAA airman database.
1. Did something I’ll-advised.
2. Doesn’t regret it.
3. In fact, wants to do it again.
4. If he/she can get away with avoiding consequences.
So the HR maven has to ask him/herself:
Is this the guy/gal I want to out in charge of a $100 million aircraft and the lives of 200 customers? Someone who wants to know how close he can push the envelope?
And many of them actually read this website.
You might want to change your board name, assuming they aren’t already combing Google to find environmental activists that have been arrested in state capitals that they can rather easily check against the FAA airman database.
#17
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To answer your question, i don't think one will matter as long as you own up to it. Make it a "political statement" during the interview and it will probably be a problem. Remember, the employer doesn't know you any better than you know them. All they see is one guy with a record and one guy without. The guy that learned his lesson and is remorseful stands a chance...the guy that isn't.....
#18
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
And this is how our system is supposed to work. Doesn't always work how it's supposed to, but it is incumbent on us to try to make it work, by exercising the processes. Hopefully that will keep our system humming along.
You can only get away with anarchy and emotional tantrums as long as the OTHER side keeps their cool... push them too far and you get: civil war. For example you would not want me (plus 20 guys like me) conducting violent counter operations to your violent protest. I've been to parts of the world where civil society doesn't exist any more (or never has)... it's worth compromising a little to preserve what we have, and IMO it's a little more fragile than most people take for granted. You need to go overseas and see what failure looks like to appreciate fully that.
And it's not "beyond a reasonable doubt"... they're already suspicious enough to not hire you, and you have to overcome that.
Also... I suspect many airlines will flat out simply refuse to hire a climate radical, since that camp's official position is now "ban airplanes". Maybe a regional, they just need meat in the seat, but there is no way in hell that any major (with thousands of apps on file) is going to hire someone if they learn about his politics. They would honestly probably suspect you were trying to gain insider access for nefarious purposes... in an industry where lethal force is authorized
So the OP, if he has to disclose the arrest should probably try to keep the political particulars out of the discussion (if possible).
#20
Why would The HR guy not assume, for example, that such tendencies might carry over to risking landing at BUR with a tailwind in a thunderstorm? Is this really a profession that needs people that will act precipitously first and THEN ask more knowledgeable people whether or not they have dodged a bullet and how many more bullets they might be able to dodge in the future without disqualifying themselves from the career field?
We’ve all had our youthful indiscretions - well, I certainly have anyway - but unless you are rich enough to fund your own airline you are gonna have to play the cards you are dealt. Do you really think the HR people at a major WOULDN’T look askance at this person? Particularly if there was a recurrence?
I certainly think they will.



