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Old 04-15-2021, 06:41 AM   #11  
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Do you have CURRENT apps in at Spirit and Frontier? Hours and any resume boosters updated monthly? Because both are actively hiring. And are you really pushing those apps? Networking with former coworkers for internal and external recommendations?

If you can’t honestly answer those questions in the affirmative, you have far more worthwhile ways to spend your time than being an FO at Sunny.
Have my apps in at both. Updating regularly. Have friends at Spirit pushing internally for me. Was able to get to a Meet the Chiefs with Spirit in 2019 but was short on the TT that they wanted. Trying to make connections for Frontier.

Again, I “should” be able to upgrade this summer to start getting the 121 TPIC.
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Old 04-16-2021, 10:36 AM   #12  
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I would avoid the FAR 135 segment of the industry if at all possible.

I'm at a legacy airline now, but spent the majority of my career in the FAR 135 world. It's nice to have biz jet experience as a fall back when the industry tanks (COVID being the most recent example), but in general I find FAR 135 to be poor quality jobs, not enough regulation and standards and a lot of pilots that, quite frankly, are risky, dangerous and overall not good pilots.

I found FAR 135 to be very stressful and frequently dealt with a lot of drama that just doesn't exist in FAR 121. I'm not familiar with the regionals in the last 15 years, but I regret my FAR 135 experience. It definitely made my career progression more difficult.
I’ve had a grand old time flying 135 but since the majority have way less pilots then a 121 outfit managers/DO’s/CP’s have a bigger effect on overall morale and atmosphere.
So if you’re working for a douche you’ll definitely know it.

At current 121 employer I enjoy just being a number. Don’t make any waves and nobody remembers your name. Just the way I like it.

Not denying your experience as there are definitely a lot of scumbag operators out there with oversight from a centenarian on a ventilator at the FSDO ICU.
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Old 04-17-2021, 10:57 AM   #13  
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Just want to add that 121 PIC isn't the only path to the majors. I was hired by one with only part 135 TPIC and 0 121 time.
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Just want to add that 121 PIC isn't the only path to the majors. I was hired by one with only part 135 TPIC and 0 121 time.
Can you talk about your path from a 135 to a 121 Major? Did you take on extra-curricular duties that you think helped?
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Old 04-18-2021, 06:40 AM   #15  
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Can you talk about your path from a 135 to a 121 Major? Did you take on extra-curricular duties that you think helped?
That's something you definitely want to do, and it's typically easier to accumulate those resume bullets in a small/medium 135 op than at a big regional. If I were doing interviews, I'd frankly wonder about an experienced 135 pilot who *didn't* have any leadership/extra-curricular stuff... if Mom & Pop don't trust you, why should my legacy?
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Can you talk about your path from a 135 to a 121 Major? Did you take on extra-curricular duties that you think helped?

Yep, couple of extra curricular items. I was in standards and also worked a little bit with pilot hiring. No check airmen or managerial roles though.
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Yep, couple of extra curricular items. I was in standards and also worked a little bit with pilot hiring. No check airmen or managerial roles though.
What flight experience did you have when you got hired? Did you have a masters degree?
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What flight experience did you have when you got hired? Did you have a masters degree?

Bachelor's degree, 6000tt, 1500tpic.
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Bachelor's degree, 6000tt, 1500tpic.
135 to LCC. Not too shabby.
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How about Erj135 TPIC (PART 135) and 121 SIC..?. Long upgrade at current 121 gig, so just out of curiosity.
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