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02-12-2022, 07:08 PM

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AirBear

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I ran into a PSA F/O today. He has a little over 900 hours CRJ SIC time and has an interview scheduled with UAL in a month or two. He does have a college degree but did the standard route via ATP Flight School, CFI time, then to PSA.

02-12-2022, 07:17 PM

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I think this will be the next big question to circulate the industry. How soon is too soon? I have friends at UAL waiting to send me a LOR as soon as I drop an app. Not wanting to put the horse before the carriage myself, I figured I’d drop the app after consolidating and getting the unrestricted ATP. I’ll keep updating from there. Good luck everyone!

02-12-2022, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 310skying

you are more likely to get hired out of a ULCC with no PIC than a regional with PIC. Hiring from a regional is like self harm for any of the big three

You state this using what data?

02-12-2022, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 60av8tor

You state this using what data?

The economic fact that it’s more beneficial to hire a pilot from your competitors instead of one of your suppliers. Every regional CA they hire hurts their feed to a hub, every ULCC FO they hire hurts their biggest competitor. Almost everyone at a ulcc who has submitted an app in the last month has gotten a call, no 121 turbine PIC required. In fact my ULCC right now looks at PIC as a detriment and thinks it makes you more likely to be un trainable or have bad habits. A320 type trumps cl-65 or EMB-175 pic right now. Plus all 3 majors already fly the bus, less chance you’ll fail.

02-12-2022, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer

Get your app in now and building onto it. Once you are in the competitive ball park 800-1000 hours 121 time. Get them reviewed.

02-13-2022, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Swakid8

Get your app in now and building onto it. Once you are in the competitive ball park 800-1000 hours 121 time. Get them reviewed.

Thanks for the advice!

02-13-2022, 03:14 AM

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CC268

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Originally Posted by TransWorld

So should one put in an app at 500 hours? At 10 hours? Asking for a friend…

With all due respect, I wasn’t trying to be a smart ass. It was a legitimate question.

02-13-2022, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AirBear

Interesting. Maybe I should be getting my apps in sooner rather than later. I was a mechanical engineering for Honeywell Aerospace prior to flying Part 135 and being a CFI. So similar route.

02-13-2022, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Swakid8

Get your app in now and building onto it. Once you are in the competitive ball park 800-1000 hours 121 time. Get them reviewed.

Can you submit your apps and still change/update all the info after the fact? On both airlineapps and pilot credentials? I know you can update your hours, but I wasn’t sure if you could overhaul the whole app after submitting it and then getting it reviewed. I’ve already had both reviewed anyways, but just curious.

02-13-2022, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CC268

Yes, and you should continue to update it regularly. Updating it shows interest in the perspective carrier.

Edit: but get your app in. If you don’t have your app in, you certainly will not get hired wether or not you have a single hour in a jet or 10,000.