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Old 08-28-2023, 04:29 PM
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What's a "WO airline?"
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Old 08-28-2023, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
What's a "WO airline?"
I donít know if you are roasting me but Iíll give you the benefit of the doubt. A WO is a wholly owned airline. Thereís is three WO that are ran by AA when it comes to funds and whatnot
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Old 08-28-2023, 06:58 PM
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I honestly took this job because of the grass is greener syndrome lol and because it was in aviation and thought thatís exactly what I need. I try so much to be positive about it and think that it is only temporary until Iím a CFI but on day when itís sunny and clear sky in the morning all the way until I get off I have to cancel my flight lesson those days makes it so hard to be positive. I try to enjoy it as much as I can and have a positive attitude but at this position Iím getting yelled at by angry employees that are mad about company policies that I have no control over it. You probably understand where Iím coming from, Iím just trying my best as much as I can but itís not easy at all.
I had a similar situation. I had grass is greener syndrome with working at an FBO dealing with corporate aviation. When I interviewed it was a very positive experience. I knew I was gonna love working there. Or so I thought lol. Companies can be very deceiving looking from the outside in. Once I was on the inside it was horrible. Lots of nepotism, and favoritism towards incompetent employees. They eventually placed me on 3rd shift overnight and they knew I couldnít work overnight because I told them that in the interview and they accepted it. But, 3 months later on the job they said hey, weíre sorry but, you have to work overnight now. I really really didnít want to, as I had worked nights before at a previous job and it was horrible. I just got married during that time, but the wife and I didnít have any kids. At the FBO job, I had a newborn at home, and working nights would absolutely not work with my wifeís work schedule and the baby. I tried to work up an agreement with them to no avail, so I told them straight up to go pound sound and quit. In hindsight, I wish I hadnít done that. But a lot of that was a part of being young at the time. When I found another job shortly thereafter, it was actually much better for me and turned out to be a much bigger pay raise from the crappy FBO job. Helped me to finish up my commercial and CFI quicker. So sometimes a job may turn out to be good when it may not appear like that.

Only you know your situation, and only you know how bad things really are. But whatever you do, donít rage quit. Not in this industry. It is hard to recover from that. I know from experience lol. It will definitely prevent you from getting hired there as a pilot. If you give them 2 weeks and say you found another job, they wonít care. It wonít prevent you from coming back to work there as a pilot. But thatís assuming you maintain a positive, professional image as a CFI and any other flying jobs you pick up before heading to the airlines.
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So I recently got a full time job at a WO airline to boost my resume up a little bit when I have my 1500hrs. And to say the least I really donít like the way things are done around here, and itís not the company as a whole itís their work rules and also my coworkers. I'm trying to suck it up until Iím done flight training, but my question is if for whatever reason I left on not so good of good terms would effect my in the future?
itís a WO airline and I work in the ground department so nothing we do effects the flight ops I meanly handle the group agents and ground ops
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Old 08-28-2023, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Plabelover View Post
So I recently got a full time job at a WO airline to boost my resume up a little bit when I have my 1500hrs. And to say the least I really donít like the way things are done around here, and itís not the company as a whole itís their work rules and also my coworkers. I'm trying to suck it up until Iím done flight training, but my question is if for whatever reason I left on not so good of good terms would effect my in the future?
itís a WO airline and I work in the ground department so nothing we do effects the flight ops I meanly handle the group agents and ground ops
I would not leave any airline on bad terms, if you ever think you might want to work there. In this case that includes all of AA + WOs, they are known to share HR info.

If you need to quit, do it. But first bust your butt and suck up for a few weeks or however long it takes to make them like you so you don't get anything bad in your record.
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Old 08-28-2023, 09:16 PM
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I donít know if you are roasting me but Iíll give you the benefit of the doubt. A WO is a wholly owned airline. Thereís is three WO that are ran by AA when it comes to funds and whatnot
I'm not "roasting" you (that's not actually what a roast is), but had no idea what a WO airline might be, hence the question. Perhaps it was the teen-speak that threw me.

IGI (I got it) now.

What type of job IT (is this) that you have with the WO airline? Are you working there in a FCS (flying capacity, somehow)? GPOBHORR? (ground personnel or baggage handler or ramp rat)? When you say you're leaving on NSGOGT (not so good of good terms), what do you mean? If you're asking if you should give TWN (two weeks notice), that's one thing, but if you TASIRJE (threw a supervisor into a running jet engine), that's a HOADCE (horse of a different color, entirely). DM (details matter).

Try to leave all jobs on GT (good terms). It's been opined that your mission at any job is to get a GR (good recommendation), whether you're at a WO airline or not. It's a good idea to get a LOR (letter of recommendation) from every employer, before you leave.
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Old 08-28-2023, 11:17 PM
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Hehehehehe.
I didnít know what WO was either.
Anyway, last time I checked youíre not obligated to take a job you didnít interview for so WUWT ( whatís up with that )
Now weíve established youíre at a Regional why not give it a 3-4 months then if itís still not your COT ( cup of tea) then have a friendly chat with your supervisor and out of courtesy give them 4 weeks notice.
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Old 08-29-2023, 02:22 AM
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So as the contract states for the ground ops, once your 2 weeks are in if you come late a minute(not exaggerating) for your shift you are automatically not eligible for re-hire
Make it point, for the two week period, to arrive at work 10 minutes early. Shouldnít be a big issue.
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Old 08-29-2023, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
I'm not "roasting" you (that's not actually what a roast is), but had no idea what a WO airline might be, hence the question. Perhaps it was the teen-speak that threw me.

IGI (I got it) now.

What type of job IT (is this) that you have with the WO airline? Are you working there in a FCS (flying capacity, somehow)? GPOBHORR? (ground personnel or baggage handler or ramp rat)? When you say you're leaving on NSGOGT (not so good of good terms), what do you mean? If you're asking if you should give TWN (two weeks notice), that's one thing, but if you TASIRJE (threw a supervisor into a running jet engine), that's a HOADCE (horse of a different color, entirely). DM (details matter).

Try to leave all jobs on GT (good terms). It's been opined that your mission at any job is to get a GR (good recommendation), whether you're at a WO airline or not. It's a good idea to get a LOR (letter of recommendation) from every employer, before you leave.
Everybody in the regionals, or who's been in one in the last 20 years, or who works for AAG knows what a WO is. It is a term of art in that world. He wasn't just talking teen.
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Old 08-29-2023, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
I'm not "roasting" you (that's not actually what a roast is), but had no idea what a WO airline might be, hence the question. Perhaps it was the teen-speak that threw me.

IGI (I got it) now.

What type of job IT (is this) that you have with the WO airline? Are you working there in a FCS (flying capacity, somehow)? GPOBHORR? (ground personnel or baggage handler or ramp rat)? When you say you're leaving on NSGOGT (not so good of good terms), what do you mean? If you're asking if you should give TWN (two weeks notice), that's one thing, but if you TASIRJE (threw a supervisor into a running jet engine), that's a HOADCE (horse of a different color, entirely). DM (details matter).

Try to leave all jobs on GT (good terms). It's been opined that your mission at any job is to get a GR (good recommendation), whether you're at a WO airline or not. It's a good idea to get a LOR (letter of recommendation) from every employer, before you leave.
I appreciate the translation lol!
I was hired for payroll but they put me in the administrative office(think about crew scheduling, HR, customer Service, a secretary and badging all in one position)
for the NSGOGT question I guess if I fu*** up sometimes so bad and have to be let go(thereís so many things I can ******* up especially that I have no experience in a position like this)
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