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Old 11-07-2008 | 01:07 PM
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Oh well heck. If you're divorced without a wifey poo to take into consideration and being out of work I'd say go for it. Maybe you can find some kind of deal to help pay for training.

After you finish you're ratings do whatever it takes to get flight time which would mean moving to the job. I keep repeating that for a career in aviation you should be willing to move to where the best job to advance yourself is located.
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Old 11-07-2008 | 02:24 PM
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Thanks for the support de727ups!

Yeah, I don't know where sky is coming from. To say..."Before you blow a fortune on a dead end perhaps you should consider taking up a drinking habit or buying an XBox?"

Sky, If you read my posts completely,then you would have answered your own questions. Go back and start over.

I think someone has some anger management issues.

For everyone else, again, thanks for the imput. This is the reason I joined this forum and asked the question. I have an appointment with a local school tomorrow. For now, my thoughts are to finish my private then get my instrument and commercial s/e.

Oh yeah...by the way...I already went through my midlife crisis 2 years ago when I got divorced (I didn't get divorced because I was having a midlife crisis. It hit after!) and then bought my 06 F430 Spider! Let me tell you all one thing. Midlife crisis doesn't have to be a bad thing.
You still did not answer any questions. Do you have residual responsibilities from your marriage? Children perhaps? Bills to pay? Are you financially independent? This decision seems rather rash and too spontaneous for an average 44 year old who just lost a job.

It seems to me that you are withholding relevant information and are waiting for answers that will give you license to act like a 22 year old. In addition a drinking habit would be hugely cheaper than flight training and there are more flight instructors in America than there are student pilots. GA is dying on the vine. I would not rely on a part time flight instructor gig to be able to pay for itself.

If you are really interested in getting any valid answers then you need to volunteer the whole story.

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Old 11-07-2008 | 04:00 PM
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"there are more flight instructors in America than there are student pilots."

Meaningless stat. It's been like that since 2002. First of all, I'd bet most CFI's do little to no instructing, like myself and Skyhigh. Yet, they count as "CFI certificates" in the stats. Secondly, student pilots don't stay as student pilots. They become PPL's, CPL's, and IFR rated pilots. And lastly, CFI's are not restricted to only instructing "student pilots", so the stat hardly proves there isn't work for CFI's. In fact, before the recent spike in gas prices, it seems there was quite a shortage of CFI's.

"GA is dying on the vine."

Don't agree. Maybe with oil at $147, but you can find avgas now in SoCal now below $4/gal. With the economy tanking for the next year or so, I see all aspects of aviation taking hits. But saying it's "dying on the vine" is an overly pessimistic skyhighism.
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Old 11-07-2008 | 07:57 PM
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Plenty of others like Phil Boyer are concerned about student pilot license statistics. It is true that there are plenty of CFI's that go unused however maybe it is because they got tired of wasting their Saturdays waiting for students that do not exist anymore? It is obvious that there are too many instructors in America and not enough students to go around.

GA is mostly populated by baby boomers or older. Once they are gone GA as we knew it will go with them. There is no one left to follow except for 90,000 flight instructors with nothing to do.

We all should enjoy these gas prices.

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Old 11-08-2008 | 02:28 AM
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If you have money enough to afford that level of car, you might consider buying yourself a fun to fly airplane (i have a Pitts and LOVE it) to satisfy your flying bug. A lot better than dumping the necessary funds to get lisc/flight time, ect to get a $15,000 per year job.
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Old 11-08-2008 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Are you too old to get a job? No.

Are you too old to start a career? Yes.

If you are financially in a position to retire now, you might consider a regional career. If you still have a wife, kids, mortgage, and need to save for college/retirement don't even consider it.
What about 33, too old for a real career? I'm not starting fresh though, I have 1000 tt/240 multi. I have a wife, kids, mortgage, etc... Otherwise, I might be forced to go back to management. NOOOOOOOOOOO! I have read many complaints from pilots on these forums about "how terrible" QOL is in the airlines and how the legacy carrier jobs are growing farther out of reach each year. Did they forget what it is like to be chained to a desk for 50 hrs a week, or does the future really look so grim that I am better off in management?
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Old 11-08-2008 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by proskuneho
What about 33, too old for a real career? I'm not starting fresh though, I have 1000 tt/240 multi. I have a wife, kids, mortgage, etc... Otherwise, I might be forced to go back to management. NOOOOOOOOOOO! I have read many complaints from pilots on these forums about "how terrible" QOL is in the airlines and how the legacy carrier jobs are growing farther out of reach each year. Did they forget what it is like to be chained to a desk for 50 hrs a week, or does the future really look so grim that I am better off in management?
Congrats on breaking the 1000 TT barrier proskuneho. Btw - 33 y/o and with your times is not too far off what some military pilots might have around that time - likely more PIC depending on the community but I wouldn't think to old for a career. I know you've been around the forum for awhile and have heard both sides of the story so I know that you will make an informed decision.

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Old 11-08-2008 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by proskuneho
What about 33, too old for a real career? I'm not starting fresh though, I have 1000 tt/240 multi. I have a wife, kids, mortgage, etc... Otherwise, I might be forced to go back to management. NOOOOOOOOOOO! I have read many complaints from pilots on these forums about "how terrible" QOL is in the airlines and how the legacy carrier jobs are growing farther out of reach each year. Did they forget what it is like to be chained to a desk for 50 hrs a week, or does the future really look so grim that I am better off in management?
No one can really say what your odds are however at 33 with a family, bills and the prospect of a global depression ahead I am sure that you can figure your odds just about as well as anyone.

Aviation is a highly competitive industry. Right now there is a single guy out there who is 26, lives in a crash pad, is a RJ captain and is willing to move anywhere at anytime and for any wage in order to advance his career. That is your competition.

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Old 11-08-2008 | 08:57 PM
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"Right now there is a single guy out there who is 26, lives in a crash pad, is a RJ captain and is willing to move anywhere at anytime and for any wage in order to advance his career. That is your competition."

Ummm... Yeah. I actually agree with Skyhigh.

I guess it boils down to how bad you want it. The whole "chained to a desk" thing I'd find highly....unacceptable....
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Old 11-09-2008 | 04:50 PM
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Thanks guys. I appreciate the advice. I hope the airlines will hire in the spring, because the corporate and 135 guys have stacks of resumes inches deep...
At least with an airline I can finish my MBA while sitting on reserve or in a hotel.
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