Electronic Logbook and "Remarks"
#1
Electronic Logbook and "Remarks"
I recently purchased LogTen Pro and I have been in the process of adding all of my logbook entries into the program. My question is about the "remarks" column of my logbook. Most of my time up to now as been training time, and some of my instructors were rather verbose in their entires. Should I transfer all of their remarks into my electronic log, or just use it for keeping track of the times? I would also present my paper logbook with the full remarks and signatures. What do airlines/recruiters like to see?
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I am in a similar situation to the OP. I am working on transferring my paper logbook to the same e-logbook and I am looking for some sage advice on how to proceed.
I would prefer to log all of my flights going forward from this point in the e-logbook vice a hard copy.
1. Now that I am tracking all of my flights in the e-logbook, do I have to print the entire d-base for interviewing purposes or is a summary generated by the e-logbook adequate? (Saving the forest and all)
2. Should I maintain a traditional logbook for logging of checkrides? What I am driving at is, will future employers accept an e-logbook entry w/ CFI’s name and number or will the employers be looking for an actual signature on paper?
Thanks in advance…
I would prefer to log all of my flights going forward from this point in the e-logbook vice a hard copy.
1. Now that I am tracking all of my flights in the e-logbook, do I have to print the entire d-base for interviewing purposes or is a summary generated by the e-logbook adequate? (Saving the forest and all)
2. Should I maintain a traditional logbook for logging of checkrides? What I am driving at is, will future employers accept an e-logbook entry w/ CFI’s name and number or will the employers be looking for an actual signature on paper?
Thanks in advance…
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I have used logbook pro for 2 years now. If I receive dual, I will have the instructor sign a paper logbook and I won't put anything in the remarks of the E-logbook. If I give dual, I will put the name of the student in the remarks section of the E-logbook (nothing in the paper). When I interviewed last month, I brought a fully printed copy of logbook pro, and my paper logbooks to show the signatures of the dual I have received. Except for this interview, I will print out my logbook pro logs once a year to keep it somewhat updated. Of course if you are interviewing, you will want it to be as updated as possible.
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But why go to the trouble of keeping an E-logbook and also a hard logbook? Isn't that just extra work or is there a reason. I imagine one reason is so you can sort your time quickly if needed in the E-log. However if you are taking your hard copy log to an interview, why print the e-log? Seems like you are giving them more than the want or asked for if you give them two copies saying the same thing in different formats. Just wondering as I have never understood the 2 logbooks.
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JP, thanks this is what I was planning on doing.
Harummmph...I want to avoid having to kill a forest to show hard copy of what I have in an electronic d-base.
I admit that I am relatively new to the interview/hiring process but would rather go w/ an e-logbook saved as a generic spreadsheet onto usb drive rather than toting around multiple paper logbooks. I guess the best bet would be to talk to HR and find out if an e-logbook will suffice.
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Yep - I transfered all of my paper logbooks over to an electronic logbook.
Luckily in my few interviews (none with airlines), I doubt anyone even took the time to look, BUT - I wanted them to be able to open up the printed out sheets and see nice, neat tallied totals, breakdowns, yearly totals, etc..... along with printed out logbook pages should they want to flip through them and look at anything inparticular.
Why would I not want to just bring a USB to them and hand it over and say - "here - slap that in your computer...."?
Well....it could be because there are computer regs against removeable hardware in the IT security orders. It might be because their computers run at a snails pace (usually because of all of the security) and what should take 1 minute to breeze through the hard copy, ends up taking 5 minutes just to open the right file (then only to find out that it looks like binary code for some reason ) Plus - I'm going to make it as easy and painless as possible for the interviewers and that doesn't include giving them anything and telling them that they have to do something for me if they want to see what they have asked for.
I agree with you though that calling HR and asking the right questions is a good way to go about it, though if I had done that, all they would have said was to bring everything on the list in the e-mail they sent me (nothing about HOW to rpresent the information nor would they have known the first thing about logbooks and such....they are HR after all!)
USMCFLYR
Kill those tree hugging trees!
Yep - I transfered all of my paper logbooks over to an electronic logbook.
Luckily in my few interviews (none with airlines), I doubt anyone even took the time to look, BUT - I wanted them to be able to open up the printed out sheets and see nice, neat tallied totals, breakdowns, yearly totals, etc..... along with printed out logbook pages should they want to flip through them and look at anything inparticular.
Why would I not want to just bring a USB to them and hand it over and say - "here - slap that in your computer...."?
Well....it could be because there are computer regs against removeable hardware in the IT security orders. It might be because their computers run at a snails pace (usually because of all of the security) and what should take 1 minute to breeze through the hard copy, ends up taking 5 minutes just to open the right file (then only to find out that it looks like binary code for some reason ) Plus - I'm going to make it as easy and painless as possible for the interviewers and that doesn't include giving them anything and telling them that they have to do something for me if they want to see what they have asked for.
I agree with you though that calling HR and asking the right questions is a good way to go about it, though if I had done that, all they would have said was to bring everything on the list in the e-mail they sent me (nothing about HOW to rpresent the information nor would they have known the first thing about logbooks and such....they are HR after all!)
USMCFLYR