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Old 01-22-2013, 05:24 AM
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If you still want your instrument I would recommend spending alot of time in a ftd or even a desk top simulator. get your scan mastered on that and then get back in the airplane with an instructor.

You may want to pursue a career as a 121 dispatcher. I have no idea what this pays, but I bet you would be a pretty good one with your diverse background.

Best of luck to you though no matter where you end up.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:52 AM
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Any reason you can't stay with your current job making $70,000/yr?

Being 30yo with an aviation specific degree in eastern MO, I'm thinking it's going to be hard to find a job making more than $70,000/year.

About the only career/job that comes to mind, with the potential to make more money, is selling new cars in a metropolitan area all while working 70-80 hrs 6-7 days/wk.

If you're good at counting cards, you could always hit the casinos.
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sata 4000 RP View Post
Any reason you can't stay with your current job making $70,000/yr?

Being 30yo with an aviation specific degree in eastern MO, I'm thinking it's going to be hard to find a job making more than $70,000/year.

About the only career/job that comes to mind, with the potential to make more money, is selling new cars in a metropolitan area all while working 70-80 hrs 6-7 days/wk.

If you're good at counting cards, you could always hit the casinos.
Currently the company I'm with is not doing well. When I re-hired they seemed to be doing very well, but in the last couple months we've laid off people, and don't have new work on the horizon. So, I'm looking for other options/opportunities in or outside of aviation. Since my major was in maintenance and avionics, I thought that might get me on somewhere else.
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:48 AM
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With the PRIA laws and a Post-Colgan airline industry, I’ve accepted that I will never be able to fly 121, 135 and probably most corporate flight departments.
That's ridiculous. Of course you could fly for 121, 135, or a corporate outfit. Your failures occured early in your primary flight training. Your'e flying now, and doing well. This is something that will stay with you. For your own peace of mind, even if you never elect to seek a flying job, go back and get your rating. Hammer it out, slowly one-on-one with a Part 61 instructor. Take all the time you need. Get over the hurdle.

If I missed it and you've done that already, then you've nothing to worry about in the future. Consider it a learning experience, and as others have noted, I'd give a lot of thought to the root cause of your experience in the training you received; four failures is usually not a student issue. It's a training issue, and the fault, while ultimately with you as the applicant, lies largely with the instructor and the program that recommended you for the tests when you weren't ready.

Life isn't over yet, and neither are your career options.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:54 AM
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That's ridiculous. Of course you could fly for 121, 135, or a corporate outfit. Your failures occured early in your primary flight training. Your'e flying now, and doing well. This is something that will stay with you. For your own peace of mind, even if you never elect to seek a flying job, go back and get your rating. Hammer it out, slowly one-on-one with a Part 61 instructor. Take all the time you need. Get over the hurdle.

If I missed it and you've done that already, then you've nothing to worry about in the future. Consider it a learning experience, and as others have noted, I'd give a lot of thought to the root cause of your experience in the training you received; four failures is usually not a student issue. It's a training issue, and the fault, while ultimately with you as the applicant, lies largely with the instructor and the program that recommended you for the tests when you weren't ready.

Life isn't over yet, and neither are your career options.
Well said sir. If it was easy, everyone would do it. Some people take longer then others to learn and there is nothing wrong with that. Back in the day, I failed my Private Pilot check ride on the first attempt because I plotted my cross country flight through the San Francisco TCA! The examiner let me learn my lesson the hard way but learn I did. Keep a positive attitude when possible and don't let failure keep you down. Good luck.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
That's ridiculous. Of course you could fly for 121, 135, or a corporate outfit. Your failures occured early in your primary flight training. Your'e flying now, and doing well. This is something that will stay with you. For your own peace of mind, even if you never elect to seek a flying job, go back and get your rating. Hammer it out, slowly one-on-one with a Part 61 instructor. Take all the time you need. Get over the hurdle.

If I missed it and you've done that already, then you've nothing to worry about in the future. Consider it a learning experience, and as others have noted, I'd give a lot of thought to the root cause of your experience in the training you received; four failures is usually not a student issue. It's a training issue, and the fault, while ultimately with you as the applicant, lies largely with the instructor and the program that recommended you for the tests when you weren't ready.

Life isn't over yet, and neither are your career options.
Thank you for the encouragement. I'm just trying to be realistic about career opportunities available to me. After being involved in aviation for over 10 years, I kinda feel burnt out of it, that's also another reason why I've thought of getting into another career field. It's hard to supervise stuff on aircraft and go home and look at more aviation related stuff to study for the instrument rating. I like flying, but not working on or supervising aircraft maintenance (one exception... I don't mind working on my own airplane). My thought is if I had a career in a different industry, I might not be as burnt out on airplanes. Has anyone ever been in that position (as far as "aviation overload" is concerned)?
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CombineCaptain View Post
Thank you for the encouragement. I'm just trying to be realistic about career opportunities available to me. After being involved in aviation for over 10 years, I kinda feel burnt out of it, that's also another reason why I've thought of getting into another career field. It's hard to supervise stuff on aircraft and go home and look at more aviation related stuff to study for the instrument rating. I like flying, but not working on or supervising aircraft maintenance (one exception... I don't mind working on my own airplane). My thought is if I had a career in a different industry, I might not be as burnt out on airplanes. Has anyone ever been in that position (as far as "aviation overload" is concerned)?

So perhaps it's not the 4 busts that are the issue here?
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:15 PM
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So perhaps it's not the 4 busts that are the issue here?
Yes and no. Working in aviation and doing something I don't really enjoy has burned me out. Aviation maintenance kinda sucks, to be honest. You're a second class citizen. Because of my four busts I did the maintenance side if things (Had to make money somehow!!). Since my company is currently laying off now, and the industry on the whole isn't doing well, I thought I'd look into other career fields that would use the skills I have develop/used in aviation. I know everyone is trying to be positive, but, what I'm looking at is I'm basically starting at 30, with four busts, I'm not exactly that marketable, especially the majors, which is one of the only areas that offer decent pay.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:49 PM
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... My thought is if I had a career in a different industry, I might not be as burnt out on airplanes...
I have no doubt this is true. There is nothing like commerce for screwing up a beautiful thing.
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