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Old 10-26-2013, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DFWAviatior View Post
If someone is going into aviation and plans to take out loans to pay for college/flight training to fly for a regional...be prepared to move in with your parents or marry a wealthy girl who won't mind you making little to no money while being gone quite a bit. Hate to sound negative, but the regional pilot quality of life and pay seem to have taken a severe beating over the past decade. While there will likely be a decreased supply of future pilots coupled with an increased demand from regional carriers to fill seats...it will still be a tough road...
I guess I would live at base then.. only thing is regional bases are always changing, so theres that to worry about. As for relationships, I dont plan on having anything last after college. I do not want them to suffer IMHO.
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What does the admission process look like? How many hours do the instructors fly each month?
If my memory serves me right, the admission process is simple. Go and admit yourself. The program is not a piece of cake though. It's run by a retired AF guy with the help of a retired DAL pilot, another retired AF guy, and two GA pilots. It is very structured.

While the upside is that the program is very structured, the downside is that it is very structured. There will always be rumors of guys getting their private, comm., etc. before you at another training facility. I prefer quality over quantity.

You will be required to be put on the flight schedule 3 times per week, but with the crazy weather in the midwest, your completed flights will vary greatly by season. You can elect to fly twice a day if you prefer as well.

Instructors can instruct as much as they want per the FARs based on the availability of their students. Unlike Joe's Flying Service, a made up part 61 flight school, some of the students are there because daddy flies for SWA and he's going to get them a job after they get their private. They're not all lovers of aviation who are willing to make the minor sacrifices to get the job done. It can be difficult to fly a bunch if you can't get your students motivated. I instructed there for a little over a year and a half before I got 1,000 hours and moved on to a 121 carrier.

As enrollment numbers vary, so does airplane availability. They have an aging fleet, but that is also the reason costs are probably better than anywhere else. I haven't compared them lately.

With all that said, there were times training was slow, and there were times where you can seize the day.

Discalimer: I am on the aviation alumni BOD. I have nothing to gain or lose whether you decide to attend or not. I just want to help keep a great program alive. It is not a well known school, but has a very very strong alumni presence who will bend over backwards trying to help you. You've just got to stand out enough to get noticed.

PM me for any information. I would be more than happy to set up a tour for you.
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Old 10-26-2013, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by pokey9554 View Post
If my memory serves me right, the admission process is simple. Go and admit yourself. The program is not a piece of cake though. It's run by a retired AF guy with the help of a retired DAL pilot, another retired AF guy, and two GA pilots. It is very structured.

While the upside is that the program is very structured, the downside is that it is very structured. There will always be rumors of guys getting their private, comm., etc. before you at another training facility. I prefer quality over quantity.

You will be required to be put on the flight schedule 3 times per week, but with the crazy weather in the midwest, your completed flights will vary greatly by season. You can elect to fly twice a day if you prefer as well.

Instructors can instruct as much as they want per the FARs based on the availability of their students. Unlike Joe's Flying Service, a made up part 61 flight school, some of the students are there because daddy flies for SWA and he's going to get them a job after they get their private. They're not all lovers of aviation who are willing to make the minor sacrifices to get the job done. It can be difficult to fly a bunch if you can't get your students motivated. I instructed there for a little over a year and a half before I got 1,000 hours and moved on to a 121 carrier.

As enrollment numbers vary, so does airplane availability. They have an aging fleet, but that is also the reason costs are probably better than anywhere else. I haven't compared them lately.

With all that said, there were times training was slow, and there were times where you can seize the day.

Discalimer: I am on the aviation alumni BOD. I have nothing to gain or lose whether you decide to attend or not. I just want to help keep a great program alive. It is not a well known school, but has a very very strong alumni presence who will bend over backwards trying to help you. You've just got to stand out enough to get noticed.

PM me for any information. I would be more than happy to set up a tour for you.
Man that sounds like a really good program. I dont have the best SAT scores aswell, thats why I was asking about the admissions. I am very passionate about aviation and you'd be suprised on how much I already know I'll do some more researching, and I'll make sure to PM you if anymore questions arise.
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Old 10-26-2013, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pokey9554 View Post
If my memory serves me right, the admission process is simple. Go and admit yourself. The program is not a piece of cake though. It's run by a retired AF guy with the help of a retired DAL pilot, another retired AF guy, and two GA pilots. It is very structured.

While the upside is that the program is very structured, the downside is that it is very structured. There will always be rumors of guys getting their private, comm., etc. before you at another training facility. I prefer quality over quantity.

You will be required to be put on the flight schedule 3 times per week, but with the crazy weather in the midwest, your completed flights will vary greatly by season. You can elect to fly twice a day if you prefer as well.

Instructors can instruct as much as they want per the FARs based on the availability of their students. Unlike Joe's Flying Service, a made up part 61 flight school, some of the students are there because daddy flies for SWA and he's going to get them a job after they get their private. They're not all lovers of aviation who are willing to make the minor sacrifices to get the job done. It can be difficult to fly a bunch if you can't get your students motivated. I instructed there for a little over a year and a half before I got 1,000 hours and moved on to a 121 carrier.

As enrollment numbers vary, so does airplane availability. They have an aging fleet, but that is also the reason costs are probably better than anywhere else. I haven't compared them lately.

With all that said, there were times training was slow, and there were times where you can seize the day.

Discalimer: I am on the aviation alumni BOD. I have nothing to gain or lose whether you decide to attend or not. I just want to help keep a great program alive. It is not a well known school, but has a very very strong alumni presence who will bend over backwards trying to help you. You've just got to stand out enough to get noticed.

PM me for any information. I would be more than happy to set up a tour for you.
I sent you a PM
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:33 AM
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I guess I would live at base then.. only thing is regional bases are always changing, so theres that to worry about. As for relationships, I dont plan on having anything last after college. I do not want them to suffer IMHO.
Try to learn early on that relationships will always be better than flying ANY airplane (regional, major, military, business jet). The quicker you learn this the happier you will be.
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:37 AM
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To add to this discussion, check out thetruthabouttheprofession.weebly.com. Both my husband and I are pilots-he's at a fractional and I'm at a regional. Whenever he runs into a line guy who is interested in flying professionally, he points them to this website.

As a previous poster said, flying is fun, but having good relationships and a happy, content life is always better. If you can combine the two, that's optimal but it can definitely be a long hard road to that point. You don't want to look back when you're older and lonely with a hopefully great career with regrets in your personal life. It would be even more depressing if your career doesn't pan out the way you envisioned it to and you're still old and lonely.

Also, if you do find yourself wanting to pursue both a flying career and a personal life, be careful who you choose. It's probably a good idea to be careful no matter what line of work you're in. There's a pretty long thread in the cargo forums that's pretty funny but true about characteristics to look for in a spouse that will lead to the best chances of a happy life.

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Old 10-27-2013, 11:32 AM
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Try to learn early on that relationships will always be better than flying ANY airplane (regional, major, military, business jet). The quicker you learn this the happier you will be.
If shes willing to put up with the long days and poor pay, I am all in. I still have a long way to figure this all out.

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Old 10-27-2013, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by flygirl556 View Post
To add to this discussion, check out thetruthabouttheprofession.weebly.com. Both my husband and I are pilots-he's at a fractional and I'm at a regional. Whenever he runs into a line guy who is interested in flying professionally, he points them to this website.

As a previous poster said, flying is fun, but having good relationships and a happy, content life is always better. If you can combine the two, that's optimal but it can definitely be a long hard road to that point. You don't want to look back when you're older and lonely with a hopefully great career with regrets in your personal life. It would be even more depressing if your career doesn't pan out the way you envisioned it to and you're still old and lonely.

Also, if you do find yourself wanting to pursue both a flying career and a personal life, be careful who you choose. It's probably a good idea to be careful no matter what line of work you're in. There's a pretty long thread in the cargo forums that's pretty funny but true about characteristics to look for in a spouse that will lead to the best chances of a happy life.
Thank you for the input. If you dont mind me asking, how does your husband deal with you being at regionals? Is it hard on the relationship? Thank you in advanced.
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8Master View Post
Try to learn early on that relationships will always be better than flying ANY airplane (regional, major, military, business jet). The quicker you learn this the happier you will be.
Guess that depends on the strength of the relationship
Early in my adult life, my flying goal was definitely more important than any relationship at the time. I had one shot at that goal. Plenty of fish in the sea.
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Montey View Post
Thank you for the input. If you dont mind me asking, how does your husband deal with you being at regionals? Is it hard on the relationship? Thank you in advanced.
It's hard. It was a lot easier when I was a senior FO and could bid his days off. Now we just make the most of our time together when we have it. When we met we were already working at our current places of employment so this is all we know and we find a way to make it work for us. It's definitely not for everybody.
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