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Old 11-07-2013, 07:47 AM
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But 135 anything may not be enough. I'm not sure that hanging out in 135 forever waiting for majors to thin out their stack is a good idea...assuming the goal is a major.
This is an interesting point. I think JetBlue and Spirit are options with just 135 turboprop time, but the legacies might be more problematic.

To the OP - do you have a family or any financial obligations that you need to consider? Would it be a big deal to just up and move to a large regional base and live on the cheap for a couple of years?

Here's what worries me about the King Air gig - it's a startup. Almost everyone starts a 135 company with the best of intentions. Then over time, the financial pressures make the QOL head south, and in a couple of years it's just another crappy 135 outfit. That's if the damned thing even stays in business.
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This is an interesting point. I think JetBlue and Spirit are options with just 135 turboprop time, but the legacies might be more problematic.

To the OP - do you have a family or any financial obligations that you need to consider? Would it be a big deal to just up and move to a large regional base and live on the cheap for a couple of years?

Here's what worries me about the King Air gig - it's a startup. Almost everyone starts a 135 company with the best of intentions. Then over time, the financial pressures make the QOL head south, and in a couple of years it's just another crappy 135 outfit. That's if the damned thing even stays in business.
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I'd do the 135 thing if it pays well and gives you a schedule you want.
That's what I did until I hit 5000 tt and then applied to some airlines I wanted to work for. I had 1500 pic jet (all light Ga aircraft). I chose the 135 route vs. the 121 regional route. It payed more in the beginning and it offered more at the time to me (qol).
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This is an interesting point. I think JetBlue and Spirit are options with just 135 turboprop time, but the legacies might be more problematic.
Pretty sure if you look at most of the guys hired recently at these places the vast majority are previous 121. Im not saying its impossible but i know Spirit has openly said at job fairs that they will "look" at 135/91 guys but they want 121 experience. Even Compass wants and is getting a lot of previous 121 folks.
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Pretty sure if you look at most of the guys hired recently at these places the vast majority are previous 121. Im not saying its impossible but i know Spirit has openly said at job fairs that they will "look" at 135/91 guys but they want 121 experience. Even Compass wants and is getting a lot of previous 121 folks.
Yeah, this is the trend I am seeing as well. I unfortunately turned it down. Not necessarily because I think 135 PIC isn't as good as 121 Jet SIC or visa versa. More due to the fact that the cost of living in the area is significantly higher and if I was going to look at it as a long term goal to get to the majors it wouldn't be the right place.... OR maybe I just am falling victim to SJS again!
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...my roommates who went to COTEX and paid for training (1996) and made captain in 6 months.
In case anyone is wondering why most regional jobs come with a lousy schedule and even worse pay and benefit packages today, it is because of a new lowering of the bar in the 1990's yesterday by people who were willing to pay someone for a job.
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I'd do the 135 thing if it pays well and gives you a schedule you want.
That's what I did until I hit 5000 tt and then applied to some airlines I wanted to work for. I had 1500 pic jet (all light Ga aircraft). I chose the 135 route vs. the 121 regional route. It payed more in the beginning and it offered more at the time to me (qol).
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At your age, I'd be getting over to a 121 carrier ASAP and knock out that degree. Forget the possible QOL of some 135 King Air deal... You need to set yourself up for lifetime QOL, and that is going to be doing whatever it takes to get to a Legacy carrier in the next few years. Start looking at regionals with quick upgrades... Compass, Commutair, etc.
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At your age, I'd be getting over to a 121 carrier ASAP and knock out that degree. Forget the possible QOL of some 135 King Air deal... You need to set yourself up for lifetime QOL, and that is going to be doing whatever it takes to get to a Legacy carrier in the next few years. Start looking at regionals with quick upgrades... Compass, Commutair, etc.
Yeah I am just going to sit at a regional until I get picked up by a major. Not chasing an upgrade though. Hopefully getting an interview with Skywest in a few weeks. I got a letter from the recruiter asking me to fill out a questionnaire.
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Yeah I am just going to sit at a regional until I get picked up by a major. Not chasing an upgrade though. Hopefully getting an interview with Skywest in a few weeks. I got a letter from the recruiter asking me to fill out a questionnaire.

You will get an interview with your times. Be prepared to explain why you left 121 before.

But I would still consider staying where you're at to get your 1000 TPIC knocked out. Combined with 121 RJ experience, that might but you over the top. Upgrades at SKW might be many years, especially if we lose a lot of 50-seaters over the next few years.
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