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Old 03-27-2017, 08:54 PM
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I built my own UAV with open sourcecode and hardware. The tech is already here. The holdup is regulators and economics.
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Old 03-28-2017, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Seaboard World View Post
LOL! One reason at my age I won't ever fly for a cargo outfit. You guys flying for FedEx/UPS or Kalita are the last of the " stage coach drivers". I work with drones a lot and the technology and enthusiasm of the younger gen doing it are amazing. I figure they drone a Van then move on up the food chain…..then pax ops. ;-)
It will happen one day, in our life times for sure, but today is not that day.
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It will happen one day, in our life times for sure, but today is not that day.
Today is not the day, and we have plenty of time to figure out a plan B. If I didn't need to fly an airplane to pay the bills, I'd stop flying tomorrow.
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Old 03-28-2017, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
Today is not the day, and we have plenty of time to figure out a plan B. If I didn't need to fly an airplane to pay the bills, I'd stop flying tomorrow.
The old timers need not worry.
It's the rookies that should think long and hard about their long term plans.

Airplane pilot shouldn't be your only skill. have a fallback.
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Well, there's no shortage of trolls jealous of UPS/Fedex pilots.

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Old 03-29-2017, 03:55 AM
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I would suggest you discuss the current situation with RPA crews in the AF/ANG. The processes to do this flying are very complex, expensive and dangerous. Hence why the "GO-CO" contracts pay soo much money to hire these folks once their mil obligations are up. HUGE money! The technology must advance greatly before the cost/benefit makes this a feasible alternative to passenger/cargo operations.
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
I built my own UAV with open sourcecode and hardware. The tech is already here. The holdup is regulators and economics.
It's not just stick and rudder. There are many peripherals that go into 121 flying than just that. How will you manually lower a stuck landing gear? Notice an issue before the gauges( which are presumably thousands of miles away) give you the bad news(smoke, engine failure on takeoff), flight an onboard fire, do a walkaround, etc etc. What if a lightning strike takes out the ability to receive data from a ground based system? (Saw an article about how the one of the Service Academies is teaching celestial navigation after a 10 year haitus for this reason). Also, see my reply below.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse View Post
The old timers need not worry.
It's the rookies that should think long and hard about their long term plans.

Airplane pilot shouldn't be your only skill. have a fallback.
You should YouTube 'Humans Need Not Apply'. Or google The Technological Singularity.' What skill would you develop now that isn't prone to AI? Particularly over decades? The Economist recently had an article about a robotic surgeon that's being developed next. Saw on CNN what they are doing with IBMs Watson and medical care. Wired magazine had a cover recently that said 'The End Of Code.' The concept of Universal Income is being bantered around. So is The End of Work. AI won't stop evolving like the human brain. It will surpass. So technology won't just affect one profession.
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In the software world failure is tolerated and problems are expected. After all the fix is just some code. Products routinely go to market with known defects.

The problem, as seen in the failure of Eclipse Aviation and the looming problems at Tesla, is that the rest of the world does not work like that. Failure is often disastrous, perhaps even fatal. Fixes after release are difficult to impossible. You don't get "do overs", you don't get to just throw out release 1.1 with a FAQ and a PR "sorry". 99% good is not good enough.

Add to that the simple truth that the real world is really, really complicated.

Business focused aircraft working in a world with a low risk tolerance are going to continue to have two pilots sitting in the thing for a long, long time.

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Old 03-29-2017, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
Today is not the day, and we have plenty of time to figure out a plan B. If I didn't need to fly an airplane to pay the bills, I'd stop flying tomorrow.
Those of us who are trained in all aspects of aviation related black magic already have a plan B & C & D.
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