Where will all the UPS 727 pilots go?
02-27-2007, 01:44 PM
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My guess is the 8 and the 300. They will be in the shock of a lifetime if they go the 75. Well, these guys are in for a shock no matter where they go. Flying 45 minutes a leg days are gone for these folks.
02-27-2007, 02:10 PM
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upsfo...
I would tend to agree...unless they want to totally change the type of flying they have been doing for the last 18 yrs...the 8 and the bus have the most similar schedules. Unless they are very senior, going to the 75 domestic will be a rude awakening! Freightpuppy talks about how great ontario flying is, so most of them will probably go there (at least the senior fo's) <BG>.
Here's hoping the senior 30 or so cpts stay out of domestic 75.......
Pilot7576
I would tend to agree...unless they want to totally change the type of flying they have been doing for the last 18 yrs...the 8 and the bus have the most similar schedules. Unless they are very senior, going to the 75 domestic will be a rude awakening! Freightpuppy talks about how great ontario flying is, so most of them will probably go there (at least the senior fo's) <BG>.
Here's hoping the senior 30 or so cpts stay out of domestic 75.......
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02-27-2007, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE
They will be in the shock of a lifetime if they go the 75.
True. You know what though? For as much as people like to say how bad 757 domestic is, it sure is pretty senior. Things that make ya go hmmmmmm.
02-27-2007, 02:14 PM
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Look, the reason these guys stayed on the 727 so many years is the great Reserve system. Meaning, sit around Louisville and hardly fly at all. Guys were blocking 100 hours a year or less. Since they like their massive amount of time off- and who can blame then- I suspect they will stick around SDF and bid reserve on the 757 domestic, A300, and Dc-8. They won't be headed to ANC or ONT without a compelling reason. My .02.
02-27-2007, 05:09 PM
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75 domestic has some OK lines but the key is staying out of SDF. If you get an SDF line sitting the sort, you most likely will end up on the west coast after flying 2 legs into the sort. If you avoid the west coast, you will then probably get 4 legs a night working about 10 hours.
And good luck to those who think they can come to the 75 and sit in SDF on reserve and not work. Right now they are having to bring Z guys over to fill all the open trips on the domestic side. I don't know ANY domestic captains sitting aound not working right now.
Oh and also the 75 has lost a lot of its day flying to the 300. That really sucks!!
And good luck to those who think they can come to the 75 and sit in SDF on reserve and not work. Right now they are having to bring Z guys over to fill all the open trips on the domestic side. I don't know ANY domestic captains sitting aound not working right now.
Oh and also the 75 has lost a lot of its day flying to the 300. That really sucks!!
02-28-2007, 02:37 PM
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How to bid, and why....
Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
Whaddya all think?
I am guessing the DC8 and/or 757. I am hoping not many senior to me go to ONT.
I am guessing the DC8 and/or 757. I am hoping not many senior to me go to ONT.
The MD11 SDF lifestyle and schedules are horrific, with terrible lines, long trips well in excess of the 727 Captains normal 48 minute leg, bad catering, and questionable hotels in out of the way backwards international destinations. If I were one of the top 21 Captains, I'd go to the Scarebus or 757 MIA, or ANC on the 747-400 or MadDog. Now that's livin!!!!!!
The MD11 in SDF is scary...
The lines are terrible.......
Life sucks.......
Repeat after me: "I need to change my system bid to ANC MD11.....
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02-28-2007, 04:54 PM
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UPSF/Ofor Life,
If the 757 is so tough and the 727 is so easy, you know 45 minute legs, then why didn't you or any of the other 757 guys bid to the 727 all these years?? I never understood why all the 757 guys whine and moan about the scheds, just bid over to the DC-8 or the 727 when that was an option. What is it about the 757/767 that keeps you on it despite the ****ty trips??
just curious
If the 757 is so tough and the 727 is so easy, you know 45 minute legs, then why didn't you or any of the other 757 guys bid to the 727 all these years?? I never understood why all the 757 guys whine and moan about the scheds, just bid over to the DC-8 or the 727 when that was an option. What is it about the 757/767 that keeps you on it despite the ****ty trips??
just curious
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