Amazon Prime Day July 11th frustrations?
07-10-2017, 07:32 AM
#1
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 693
Amazon Prime Day July 11th frustrations?
Reading all the press about the importance of Amazon Prime Day.
Facts:
--Single biggest Amazon shopping day of the year. Bigger than Black Friday or Cyber Monday.
--Amazon expects $1 BILLION in revenue TOMORROW.
--Prime Day also serves as a test of Amazon's logistical network in preparation for the 4th quarter Christmas rush.
How will the crews at Atlas, ABX and ATI express their frustrations with the lack of progress in negotiations?
Facts:
--Single biggest Amazon shopping day of the year. Bigger than Black Friday or Cyber Monday.
--Amazon expects $1 BILLION in revenue TOMORROW.
--Prime Day also serves as a test of Amazon's logistical network in preparation for the 4th quarter Christmas rush.
How will the crews at Atlas, ABX and ATI express their frustrations with the lack of progress in negotiations?
07-10-2017, 08:50 AM
#2
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: Boeing driver
Posts: 18
Quit trolling! The pilots at these three carriers have nothing against Amazon and their goals. Contract negotiations right now is between the union and each respective management group. Union representatives need to hold the line and stand firm for what each group deserves. They all deserve to have a new contract that is of industry standard. It would be have been great if they were all represented by the same union but they're not. So bargain in good faith and when management doesn't do the same take the legal steps required.
End of thread!
End of thread!
07-10-2017, 09:37 AM
#3
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: 747
Posts: 1,290
NOT the end of the thread ...
And, it's not trolling.
Amazon has the power to make Atlas/Southern/ABX negotiations happen immediately, so they have an active roll in this situation.
And while there are two unions at work here, the Teamsters represent 1917 pilots and ALPA represents 205 pilots, so there is, in effect, one union that will be setting the standard for Amazon pilots.
Atlas/ABX management groups need to get serious about signing some industry standard contracts or the fourth quarter is going to get very ugly very quickly. IMHO.
8
And, it's not trolling.
Amazon has the power to make Atlas/Southern/ABX negotiations happen immediately, so they have an active roll in this situation.
And while there are two unions at work here, the Teamsters represent 1917 pilots and ALPA represents 205 pilots, so there is, in effect, one union that will be setting the standard for Amazon pilots.
Atlas/ABX management groups need to get serious about signing some industry standard contracts or the fourth quarter is going to get very ugly very quickly. IMHO.
8
07-10-2017, 10:28 AM
#5
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 223
Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
And while there are two unions at work here, the Teamsters represent 1917 pilots and ALPA represents 205 pilots, so there is, in effect, one union that will be setting the standard for Amazon pilots.
People are growing ever more frustrated here. The union's lack of communications after the last meeting was like a deafening alarm. Lastly their total lack of guidance or future strategy was strangely absent.
Prime day should be and is fair game. Best time isn't merely one day, its a certain 2-4 weeks toward the end of the year. This way the other carriers are already at capacity and extra lift is near impossible and at a major premium.
Someone will chime in and call anything an illegal strike. If the three pilot groups walked you'll get international media attention. You really think they're gonna fire everyone...
Last edited by midnightshuttle; 07-10-2017 at 10:38 AM.
07-10-2017, 10:50 AM
#6
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: Boeing driver
Posts: 18
I'm all about exhausting option A and B before being pushed to option C. Just jumping to option C destroys your credibility. Being a fairly new ABX'er, I know that if either of the three groups have exhausted options A and B and are pushed to option C. We will stand in solidarity with our brothers on the ramp!
07-10-2017, 12:20 PM
#7
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 223
Originally Posted by Approach lights
I'm all about exhausting option A and B before being pushed to option C. Just jumping to option C destroys your credibility. Being a fairly new ABX'er, I know that if either of the three groups have exhausted options A and B and are pushed to option C. We will stand in solidarity with our brothers on the ramp!
Thats a pretty easy statement to make when your sitting next to me doing the same job for greater pay and benefits while lining the pockets of the same people
Thats about the extent of your A B plan. Im probably providing some of your paycheck. While Im getting hosed with a union leader thats about as visible as the Loch Ness monster
07-10-2017, 01:37 PM
#8
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 194
Amazon contractor pilots need to show their frustrations by working exactly to their contract, aircraft operation manual and flight operations manual. No favors and no waivers.
Amazon Prime Day will only work if the pilots of the contractors go above and beyond... Don't do it.
Amazon Prime Day will only work if the pilots of the contractors go above and beyond... Don't do it.
07-10-2017, 01:46 PM
#10
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 194
Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
NOT the end of the thread ...
And, it's not trolling.
Amazon has the power to make Atlas/Southern/ABX negotiations happen immediately, so they have an active roll in this situation.
And while there are two unions at work here, the Teamsters represent 1917 pilots and ALPA represents 205 pilots, so there is, in effect, one union that will be setting the standard for Amazon pilots.
Atlas/ABX management groups need to get serious about signing some industry standard contracts or the fourth quarter is going to get very ugly very quickly. IMHO.
8
And, it's not trolling.
Amazon has the power to make Atlas/Southern/ABX negotiations happen immediately, so they have an active roll in this situation.
And while there are two unions at work here, the Teamsters represent 1917 pilots and ALPA represents 205 pilots, so there is, in effect, one union that will be setting the standard for Amazon pilots.
Atlas/ABX management groups need to get serious about signing some industry standard contracts or the fourth quarter is going to get very ugly very quickly. IMHO.
8
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
