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Lockheed 08-02-2017 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by midnightshuttle (Post 2403351)
That would be an error on a biblical scale.

Look at what ALPA representation has done to ATI, representation by castration. What carrier has the worst pay and work rules on the ramp and who represents them.

Sorry
that honor belongs solely to Southern Air - they make much less than ATI
777 CA pay is atrocious - who represents them? I forget

Lockheed 08-02-2017 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by zerozero (Post 2403436)
Incredibly impulsive, short sighted and emotional.

Way to just alienate the group from the larger Amazon/DHL network.

Can't you all see THAT is where everything is headed? Even ATI is *slowly* seeing the light.

And you guys are pulling the covers over your eyes.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Exactly who are you to tell us what's right for us?
sorry we no longer fit into YOUR agenda

jhugz 08-02-2017 03:48 PM

uhmmm....wut?

motorclutch 08-02-2017 03:52 PM

Come on guys.....lay off of K4! Some guys like the taste of "sh1t-pie". Let them enjoy it.....their choice!

Lockheed 08-02-2017 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by motorclutch (Post 2403506)
Come on guys.....lay off of K4! Some guys like the taste of "sh1t-pie". Let them enjoy it.....their choice!

We do appreciate ABX's support in 1224 - the only major group that gave us any respect

thanks

No Land 3 08-02-2017 04:13 PM

This is fu**ing stupid. I came from an ALPA carrier, no way...
https://i1.wp.com/goodbyeboringlife....7-1.jpg?w=1000

Code Red 08-02-2017 04:54 PM

Don't feed the troll. This is flaimbait.

maxjet 08-02-2017 05:16 PM

Couple of questions:

What benefit is it for Kalitta Pilots to stay in 1224?

Why would any pilot group want to belong to an organization that would not allow them to vote on a contract that their negotiating committee had approved?

Why does anyone else care?

Pain 08-02-2017 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by goldfinger (Post 2403252)
Today,K4 pilots received signature cards authorizing the decertification of 1224 as our bargaining representation. HOORAY !!! Its about time we moved toward controlling our own destiny and rid ourselves of the Atlas dominated 1224 run by people who do not have our interests as first priority. Dominated by those who would (and tried to) ruthlessly sell us out and use us as a bargaining chip to benefit another separate pilot group. Its way past time that we freed ourselves from this sort of demagoguery and usury. Its way past time the K4 pilots negotiated and bargained for us and by us and refuse to allow our futures to be exploited and determined with only the benefit of another pilot group in mind.

Asshat..........

No Land 3 08-02-2017 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by maxjet (Post 2403563)
Couple of questions:

What benefit is it for Kalitta Pilots to stay in 1224?

Why would any pilot group want to belong to an organization that would not allow them to vote on a contract that their negotiating committee had approved?

Why does anyone else care?

Here's the flip side, lets say we switch to ALPA, and our union gets in bed with the company... Cough MESA Cough... ALPA national won't do a damn thing to stop that, and wouldn't care if we signed a contract that paid us 5.00 hr.
It's too bad that the Atlas guy did what he did, but I still believe it is a better way.


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