Western Global Airlines
12-06-2021, 12:41 PM
#321
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Position: MD-11
Posts: 62
Originally Posted by JohnBurke
That may be the case, but a comparison of wide body to narrow body is irrelevant. WGA only operates wide body, so if you want to make a valid comparison, then compare widebody aircraft.
That is not true.
Day 1-17 at WGA pays the daily rate of 382, now 419 with the 10% pay rase. Thus, on day 17 a first year first officer earns 419 for the day.
Day eighteen pays the same as day 17. On day 18, a WGA first officer earns 419 for the day, not the 840 that you suggest.
Days 19 and 20 pay 1.5 times the daily rate. Day 19 thus pays 628, still less than the 840 that you suggest.
You're referring to 2.0 times the daily rate, which begins on day 21. In order to make 840 (838, actually), a first year first officer would need to be on his 21st day.
Those are not necessarily simply consecutive days. Those are days in a calendar month. A first officer who has been out for 20 days, ending on the 31st of January, does not get 21 day pay on the 1st of February. He starts a new 17 days. If he goes home on the 17th, thus having been out 37 days consecutively, he still does not get that 838 dollars.
That is not true.
Day 1-17 at WGA pays the daily rate of 382, now 419 with the 10% pay rase. Thus, on day 17 a first year first officer earns 419 for the day.
Day eighteen pays the same as day 17. On day 18, a WGA first officer earns 419 for the day, not the 840 that you suggest.
Days 19 and 20 pay 1.5 times the daily rate. Day 19 thus pays 628, still less than the 840 that you suggest.
You're referring to 2.0 times the daily rate, which begins on day 21. In order to make 840 (838, actually), a first year first officer would need to be on his 21st day.
Those are not necessarily simply consecutive days. Those are days in a calendar month. A first officer who has been out for 20 days, ending on the 31st of January, does not get 21 day pay on the 1st of February. He starts a new 17 days. If he goes home on the 17th, thus having been out 37 days consecutively, he still does not get that 838 dollars.
12-06-2021, 02:05 PM
#323
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,469
Originally Posted by 80Z28Dude
No, my information is correct. It changed, effective 1 Dec 2021. Double pay starts on day 18. Many things have changed. The current profile on APC is outdated. Starting in January, you will be able to bid for hard 17 day lines, hard 20 day lines, etc. the new President is receptive to change and is making things happen. But the poster is right, double time days do not extend to the next month. It resets. You challenge the $840 double time number, but the pay rate in the pilot addendum for a first year FO is $382. 382 X 1.1 = 420.2 X 2 = $840.40. That’s math 101. If you’re considering coming back to WGA or need to verify your claims please PM me.
My first month off OE my guarantee is 17100 dollars, I do not include PD on it, if I did it would be over $18k, and I am working 16 days. That's math 101.
12-06-2021, 02:50 PM
#324
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Position: MD-11
Posts: 62
Originally Posted by dera
If you add all the fringe income to WGA, we should add that to Atlas as well.
My first month off OE my guarantee is 17100 dollars, I do not include PD on it, if I did it would be over $18k, and I am working 16 days. That's math 101.
My first month off OE my guarantee is 17100 dollars, I do not include PD on it, if I did it would be over $18k, and I am working 16 days. That's math 101.
12-06-2021, 03:06 PM
#325
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,469
Originally Posted by 80Z28Dude
never said guarantee includes fringe income, but congratulations on your $1068.75 a day guarantee.
Might pick up an extra day of work to make it a nice round $20k month.
12-06-2021, 11:47 PM
#329
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Position: 777 Left window seat
Posts: 640
Originally Posted by dera
3.8 contract units.
What a dumb question.
What a dumb question.
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